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Posted: 02 Aug 09, 17:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

what are the laws on file sharing...i know that it is against the law to use p2p,for released music,and video.but what about fan recordings.or bootlegs...things like the stuff we download from here,is it legal to share?.maybe a grey area this,as i spose it is still property of q productions.what do you think.......

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Posted: 02 Aug 09, 19:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

man here in brazil they don't care with p2p things... the people try to don't share official things in foruns... however, everbody share official and unofficial musics ;D



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Posted: 02 Aug 09, 23:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm even more confused now.

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Posted: 03 Aug 09, 00:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bootlegs are unnoficial,so they can perfectly be shared as they are here or not?


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Posted: 03 Aug 09, 03:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Depends on the country.
If I remember correctly in our country you can download anything, but you can't upload copyrighted material.
Are bootlegs copyrighted ? Or other forms of unofficial recordings ?


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Posted: 03 Aug 09, 09:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



pittrek wrote:

Depends on the country.
If I remember correctly in our country you can download anything, but you can't upload copyrighted material.
Are bootlegs copyrighted ? Or other forms of unofficial recordings ?






i think is it... you cant upload!



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Posted: 04 Aug 09, 10:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Lets see if I can put that degree to some use for a second:

From what I can remember, uploading copyright material is, as Pittrek says, of course illegal. However, Im pretty sure downloading is also technically illegal, as you have made digital copy of copyrighted material without permission.

Bootlegs still contain elements of copyright, in that the songs being performed are copyrighted, however the sound recording itself is the property of the person who recorded it, and if they have chosen to share/distribute it, they can have no complaints.
Bands in theory could pursue bootleggers, and those who share them, such as we, but I think although techically there is a copyright breach, they would struggle to show much loss, and this would be a massive undertaking and waste of time anyway.

Long story short, bootleg sharing is probably essentially illegal I think, but NO ONE is arsed about it since it goes on amongst hardcore fans who will buy the official live releases etc anyway, so record companies/bands turn a blind eye. Theres little danger of getting in legal trouble with it.

Official releases on the otherhand - well, anyone in Europe or the US who thinks downloading tons of these will be able to continue indefinately will probably get a shock one day soon, and it serves them right. Both p2p users and the guys who set the networks up in the first place and maintain them are targets for the industry right now, and they have the technology and gradually the law in their favour. The rest of the world can only be a matter of time I reckon.


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