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Posted: 03 Aug 09, 12:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Another minor upgrade comming !

Band : Queen
Venue : Rainbow Theatre, London, UK
Date : March 31. 1974

Lineage :
Source 1 : SBD > multi-track master > ? > TDK-D Cassette (normal bias) > WAV > CDr(1) > EAC > WAV > Cool Edit Pro (small hiss reduction) > WAV (*)
Source 2 : SBD > multi-track master > ? > "High Voltage" bootleg LP > MC(2 or 3) > WAV > Cool Edit Pro (small speed correction) > WAV (**)
Source 3 : PRO master > ? > VHS > WAV (***)

Tracklist :
 1. Procession (** / *)
 2. Father To Son (*)
 3. Ogre Battle (*)
 4. Son And Daughter (* / ***)
 5. Keep Yourself Alive (*)
 6. Seven Seas Of Rhye (*)
 7. Modern Times Rock'n'Roll (*)
 8. Liar (* / **)
 
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Another fantastic show !
Rosemary Horide : "What a night! It was a finale of the big Queen tour throughout the whole country. It was the conclusive evening for their reputation. Their lift was meteorical. So many people had challenged if Queen had the authority to play in such a prestigious place as the Rainbow. Freddie appeared in his new specially eccentric white "eagle's" costume, bouncing and miming with even bigger ecstasy than ever and sang even better than any time
before. One couldn't believe it's the first time of Queen appearing themselves in such an important place. After a while they got used to taking advantage of the big stage. After two encores they left the stage during a big applause of the audience.
"

QueenLive.ca :
Roger Taylor's energetic Modern Times Rock 'n' Roll is played at this show. While the studio version had Roger doing the lead vocal, Freddie would sing it in concert. The vocal line had to be rearranged as his vocal range is not
nearly as high as Roger's. The song would be performed often over the next few years.

In the early 70s, metal and glam were two completely separate entities, but Queen united them with songs like Modern Times Rock 'n' Roll and Stone Cold Crazy. The band would come to be a major influence on stadium rock as well as on metal's progression through the 80s.

During Liar, Brian breaks a string around the breakdown (when Freddie sings "Listen!"). He unplugs and switches to a Fender Stratocaster (he didn't have a Red Special copies in the early days). His tone is much different from this
point onward.

Myself :

Ten minutes of professional video footage exist from this show (only Son And Daughter and Modern Times Rock 'n' Roll). Some of Son And Daughter was broadcast in or around 2000 on a Swedish TV programe called Kvällstoppen",
and a few seconds of Modern Times Rock 'n' Roll were seen in the 2002 "When Freddie Met Kenny" (Everett, radio DJ) documentary. Both were in great quality. Also a few parts of Son And Daughter and Modern Times Rock'n'Roll were shown (in widescreen) in a trailer for the BBC documentary "Seven Ages Of Rock". Does anybody know how much other footage is circulating ?

Most of this recording comes from a pre-LP copy in superb quality, rendering all previous versions to be obsolete. Some gaps between songs, as well as the beginnings of Procession and Liar, are filled in with a tape transfer of
"High Voltage" LP, which is simply a re-release of "Master of Sheetkeeckers", which was the very first Queen bootleg ever produced, released in the US in February 1975.

This soundboard recording (multi-track, to be precise, since it certainly has been properly mixed) contains numerous vocal overdubs. The most glaring example of this is 3 minutes into Liar, when Freddie sings "time after time", and the next line begins before the previous one has ended. Another nice example is when Freddie sings "Watch out" at the beginning of Son And Daughter - he can be clearly seen on the video that he's gone away from the microphone, but you can still hear him singing ;-)

The interesting thing is that old Queen expert John S. Stuart wrote on Queenzone.com forum that a complete 2 LP set does exist, it's framed in Barry Sheffield's office and the tracklist is Procession, Father To Son, Ogre Battle,
White Queen, Great King Rat, Hangman, Doing Alright, Son and Daughter, Keep Yourself Alive, Seven Seas Of Rhye, Liar, Jailhouse Rock / Shake Rattle & Roll / Stupid Cupid / Jailhouse Rock (reprise), Big Spender / Modern Times Rock'n'Roll .

Does anybody know how accurate this information is ?

There were some edits on this pre-LP source. So I have added the beginnings of Procession, Liar and the ending of the concert from the LP source, and "What comes next" from the video.

A huge inspiration for me for creating this was a merge done by SirGH from www.QueenLive.ca . However he used hard cuts when he changed the sources, which I didn't like. So the main difference between his version and mine is that I've used crossfades instead of hard cuts.

Differences :

So in the case you got either the original pre-LP source, or SirGH's original merge, the main difference are the crossfades, speed correction and hiss reduction. If you like this sort of things, get it now. If you don't, ignore it :-)
And of course if you don't have any recording of this gig yet, get it NOW ! :-)

Download links :

http://www.mediafire.com/?gcnyjtnmtmz
http://www.mediafire.com/?my2tkdqt4gn
http://www.mediafire.com/?nmm3jfyhjnm

Please don't convert to lossy formats e.g. mp3


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Posted: 03 Aug 09, 12:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

thanks 4share... i'm downloading all!!!



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Posted: 03 Aug 09, 14:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Thank you very much for your effort.

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Posted: 04 Aug 09, 01:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank you very much Pittrek.  You're a great guy.

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Thanks a lot for your great work!!

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Thank you very much !!


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Posted: 04 Aug 09, 08:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have this....is the original pre-LP source?

(I like to know what I have :lol: )


Recording length:      37 minutes (1 CD, incomplete)
Quality:             A+
Source:             Soundboard
Lineage:             Soundboard Master > ? > Cassette (normal bias) > WAV >
                        CDR (1) > WAV (gap in SAD filled in with video source)


Track listing:
Procession,
Father To Son,
Ogre Battle,
Son And Daughter,
Keep Yourself Alive,
Seven Seas Of Rhye,
Modern Times Rock 'n' Roll,
Liar


This is a pre-LP copy in superb quality, which renders all LP versions to be
obsolete, as well as all of the old silvers, because they are sourced from the
many LPs (namely Sheetkeeckers, the very first Queen bootleg, which came out in
early 1975). I filled in a few brief gaps with an LP source. This version was
bootlegged as "Majestic Rock" by Wardour.

This soundboard recording (multi-track, to be precise) clearly contains numerous
vocal overdubs, most notably a bit over 3 minutes into Liar when you can clearly
hear a line sung by Freddie (the "time after time" line), and the next line begins
before the previous one has ended. Keeping the overdubs in mind, along with the
fact that it's mixed perfectly, the between-song segments are edited, and that
it's 37 minutes long, I'd like to suggest the possibility that this may have
once been considered to be a live album by the band and ultimately shelved.

For years, it has been said that the power went out during Liar, but people
concluded that it couldn't have been this show since the song continued without
interruption on the recording. But if you consider all the overdubs and edits
already present on the recording we have, why can't there be yet another one?



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Posted: 04 Aug 09, 08:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



goa wrote:

I have this....is the original pre-LP source?

(I like to know what I have :lol: )


Recording length:      37 minutes (1 CD, incomplete)
Quality:             A+
Source:             Soundboard
Lineage:             Soundboard Master > ? > Cassette (normal bias) > WAV >
                        CDR (1) > WAV (gap in SAD filled in with video source)


Track listing:
Procession,
Father To Son,
Ogre Battle,
Son And Daughter,
Keep Yourself Alive,
Seven Seas Of Rhye,
Modern Times Rock 'n' Roll,
Liar


This is a pre-LP copy in superb quality, which renders all LP versions to be
obsolete, as well as all of the old silvers, because they are sourced from the
many LPs (namely Sheetkeeckers, the very first Queen bootleg, which came out in
early 1975). I filled in a few brief gaps with an LP source. This version was
bootlegged as "Majestic Rock" by Wardour.

This soundboard recording (multi-track, to be precise) clearly contains numerous
vocal overdubs, most notably a bit over 3 minutes into Liar when you can clearly
hear a line sung by Freddie (the "time after time" line), and the next line begins
before the previous one has ended. Keeping the overdubs in mind, along with the
fact that it's mixed perfectly, the between-song segments are edited, and that
it's 37 minutes long, I'd like to suggest the possibility that this may have
once been considered to be a live album by the band and ultimately shelved.

For years, it has been said that the power went out during Liar, but people
concluded that it couldn't have been this show since the song continued without
interruption on the recording. But if you consider all the overdubs and edits
already present on the recording we have, why can't there be yet another one?



Yes, it appears to be the clean pre-LP copy, but it can be a misslabeled copy of the original compilation by SirGH. Where do you have it from ? Does it have the complete Procession intro ? The original pre-LP copy cuts in during Procession, the original 3-source mix has the intro from the LP transfer, and there cuts to the pre-LP copy






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Posted: 04 Aug 09, 09:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank you very much!!


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pittrek wrote:







goa wrote:



I have this....is the original pre-LP source?

(I like to know what I have :lol: )


Recording length:      37 minutes (1 CD, incomplete)
Quality:             A+
Source:             Soundboard
Lineage:             Soundboard Master > ? > Cassette (normal bias) > WAV >
                        CDR (1) > WAV (gap in SAD filled in with video source)


Track listing:
Procession,
Father To Son,
Ogre Battle,
Son And Daughter,
Keep Yourself Alive,
Seven Seas Of Rhye,
Modern Times Rock 'n' Roll,
Liar


This is a pre-LP copy in superb quality, which renders all LP versions to be
obsolete, as well as all of the old silvers, because they are sourced from the
many LPs (namely Sheetkeeckers, the very first Queen bootleg, which came out in
early 1975). I filled in a few brief gaps with an LP source. This version was
bootlegged as "Majestic Rock" by Wardour.

This soundboard recording (multi-track, to be precise) clearly contains numerous
vocal overdubs, most notably a bit over 3 minutes into Liar when you can clearly
hear a line sung by Freddie (the "time after time" line), and the next line begins
before the previous one has ended. Keeping the overdubs in mind, along with the
fact that it's mixed perfectly, the between-song segments are edited, and that
it's 37 minutes long, I'd like to suggest the possibility that this may have
once been considered to be a live album by the band and ultimately shelved.

For years, it has been said that the power went out during Liar, but people
concluded that it couldn't have been this show since the song continued without
interruption on the recording. But if you consider all the overdubs and edits
already present on the recording we have, why can't there be yet another one?




Yes, it appears to be the clean pre-LP copy, but it can be a misslabeled copy of the original compilation by SirGH. Where do you have it from ? Does it have the complete Procession intro ? The original pre-LP copy cuts in during Procession, the original 3-source mix has the intro from the LP transfer, and there cuts to the pre-LP copy





))% that I dl form that hyper-mega torrent best of the best of pittrek.

Now I found i and with foobar2000 the tracks have a tag that says SirGH compilation.
Also Procession is 1:10, the same duration than yours.

thanks.







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Posted: 04 Aug 09, 17:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank You again Pittrek for Your effort !!!!!!!!!!

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Posted: 17 Sep 09, 06:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks again, Pittrek [img=/images/smiley/msn/teeth_smile.gif][/img] .  Your work is much appreciated.

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Posted: 20 Aug 10, 14:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank You!!!! Great !

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Posted: 20 Aug 10, 15:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Very nice compilation Pittrek! Really appreciated all the work you put in to make the most complete out of it.


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Una qualità eccellente , complimenti a chi fa tutta stà fatica ! un grazie immenso .. Scusate ma non sò l'inglese ..