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Posted: 03 Aug 09, 15:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've just been listening to and watching some classic 70's Queen - moments like Son & Daughter, Brighton Rock, See What A Fool I've Been, Liar etc.. have some great extended parts live, with some improvised pieces thrown in, and it really emphasises how great John, Roger and Brian were as a 'bluesy power trio' in the vein of Cream etc.... it's not a style that they are recognised for, and they didn't stick with it once they started honing and crafting their 'hit' writing, but they could certainly do it when they toyed with it live.

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Posted: 03 Aug 09, 15:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


... with a bit more of rehearsals and perfectionism (on stage) they would be the best band in the world for a long time...


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Posted: 03 Aug 09, 17:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

yeahpp!!! they have a big potential to be the best band of the world "forever" for a big long time!!



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Posted: 03 Aug 09, 22:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah I agree, they were pretty great even back then....

They provided the best foundations for Freddie to do his thing....

its not all about Freddie........ even he knew that


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Posted: 04 Aug 09, 09:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

honest, i think from 80-86 they should to have fired Freddie ......   his ideas were not worth it anymore,   its like breaking up the relationship and taking the woman back when she is ready to take her place and not be a lunatic anymore.

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Posted: 04 Aug 09, 10:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



andreas_mercury wrote:

honest, i think from 80-86 they should to have fired Freddie ......   his ideas were not worth it anymore,   its like breaking up the relationship and taking the woman back when she is ready to take her place and not be a lunatic anymore.


Now THAT is something I had never read in this forum in about 10 years reading it, hehe :). I think you have a point, though.

The band chose to become a rock-pop band and play it safe after Hot Space, which I consider the band's last album in which they took a big risk. Freddie said their music was disposable pop and you can certainly say that of some of their 80's hit but not of most of their 70's output.



Think about this: What if they had made an album similar in style and production to Queen 2 or ANATO around 84? Songs like "It's a Hard Life" could have still made it into it.



Would most of us still be here if Queen hadn't gone the Works-AKOM way? Who knows.



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Posted: 04 Aug 09, 14:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Regarding the Power Trio issue, I remember that Deaky said it once.

But, instead, I would say it was a Power Trio with a powerful singer. None of the three could sing to fit the Rock they made.

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Posted: 05 Aug 09, 03:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

brian could but only in the studio  and he was 20 years too late!

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Posted: 05 Aug 09, 19:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



marcio17@queenzone.com wrote:

Regarding the Power Trio issue, I remember that Deaky said it once.

But, instead, I would say it was a Power Trio with a powerful singer. None of the three could sing to fit the Rock they made.

I have to disagree on that. Roger carried their vocals live - if not for him hitting the high notes, Freddie would have been an octave lower in many of the songs. While Rog probably couldn't sing the quiet bits as good as Fred, I think he could have handled the rock tracks just fine. But the question is - would he wear a leotard on stage?

That said, I think we have to recognize that Freddie was unique and special. They could have carried on as trio, but as Brian said, "a front man needs brass balls", and without a front man they would have been just another good band.







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Posted: 05 Aug 09, 21:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

well.... if the Power Trio were great at making the blues sound and all..

Maybe at that point Freddie did actually say "your trying to make me sound like Paul Rodgers"......




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Posted: 05 Aug 09, 22:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



 



doxonrox wrote:



 



 



 



 



marcio17@queenzone.com wrote:



 



Regarding the Power Trio issue, I remember that Deaky said it once.

But, instead, I would say it was a Power Trio with a powerful singer. None of the three could sing to fit the Rock they made.



 


I have to disagree on that. Roger carried their vocals live - if not for him hitting the high notes, Freddie would have been an octave lower in many of the songs. While Rog probably couldn't sing the quiet bits as good as Fred, I think he could have handled the rock tracks just fine. But the question is - would he wear a leotard on stage?

That said, I think we have to recognize that Freddie was unique and special. They could have carried on as trio, but as Brian said, "a front man needs brass balls", and without a front man they would have been just another good band.






Yes, but with or without Freddie they are great musicians.  I would have still loved Queen if there was no Freddie and Brian and/or Roger did most/all the lead vocals.







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Posted: 06 Aug 09, 00:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It'd be interesting if they'd recorded more jams just like the one we hear on Live Killers after Brian's solo, when Roger and John come back to the stage, but still before Freddie comes back to finish Brighton Rock.
They sound so powerful!


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Posted: 06 Aug 09, 01:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

they should have had instrumentals for sure. They were musically powerful, but don't forget freddie on the piano. I think the four of them could have wrote some great instrumentals to replace some of their weaker songs like fun it and more of that Jazz.