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Posted: 10 Aug 09, 15:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote







Do you need a new thread for every new post?







And can you answer the 'Rock in Rio 1981' question?... It was in 1985.








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Posted: 10 Aug 09, 15:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Nice stuff, but I disagree in one thing: I think that there were only two persons in the world who could call Paul McCartney "my brother": one is Mike McCartney, being the other John Lennon.


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Posted: 10 Aug 09, 17:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



erick mckay wrote:

Well here I'm again,to those who liked my items I'm happy to sign some more and pass them off as genuine






thanks, but no thanks...scammer





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Posted: 10 Aug 09, 17:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



erick mckay wrote:

I agree with you 100%. When I wrote like a brother I meant it in an abstract friendly way.

Their friendship comes from decades,and this is a producer that have had many artists like Tina, Gino, The Judds,Kool and the gang and many more.

I do not know why all this madness about my items,if many of our members have different opinion well that's their option,
I'm not here to debate or defend, I just presented them for all of you to see and now I'm being bombarded?

Thanks for your comment.  




So in other words you cannot explain why Roger would sign something in 1981 four years before the actual event he stated in his autograph eve took place.





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Posted: 10 Aug 09, 19:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Look, I also hang out at TEL Studies, which is the TE Lawrence (aka Lawrence of Arabia) headed by his official biographer Jeremy Wilson. There are a lot of charlatons out there trying to sell fake TEL memorabelia too and if you don't have provenance or a an afadavit by someone who is a known expert confirming the authenticity of of things offered for sale then it is only your word (as in someone we don't know), and you might be trying to pass stuff off. Maybe your stuff is the real goods and maybe it isn't but if some of it looks a little suspicious to some of us then chalk it up to caveat emptor - buyer beware!

As far as I am concerned I don't care about some signature that is dashed off on something. If it were mine and I had a memory attached to it of meeting the guys for sodas, as you said somewhere, then that is YOUR memory attached to it. But it means little to me, so I am not interested anyway.






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Posted: 10 Aug 09, 19:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You get Brian to vouch for your material at his website, and then we will know that you didn't just pop in here suddenly trying to hustle stuff off on Queen fans.


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Posted: 10 Aug 09, 19:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



You make less and less sense as you struggle further to try to back up your nonsense.



That whole great passage in portuguese cannot possibly be squeezed into those few lines of English anyway.



This is getting very tiring.




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Posted: 10 Aug 09, 20:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



erick mckay wrote:

Hello queen on ice,sorry i couldn't answer right away but as you can imagine I have a daily job, soory again for the delay.
This is my answer to you and to all who wants to know why 1981?
First in Portuguese and at the end in english.
But for you first in english:


**The
photographer name was alexildo arlindo moreira working for elektra he
was from Rio and the autograph was intended for mister Alexildo. It was
given while Roger  forehead was being cleaned by  Josilene Iracema Da
Costa an employee of the Morumbi.**

I'm not selling you nothing you couldn't afford it anyways, but still I respect you and love you, after all we are a queen family aren't we?


Olá senhor Rocha, obrigado pelo seu comentário, tenho de saber o que
lhe dá o direito de julgar e condenar-me? Você não me conhece, vocês
têm 23 anos e ainda andando com fraldas de bebê, quando os seus pais
ainda datavam em 1981 eu já assistia aos concertos, estive em Sao paulo
no Março 20o 1981. Estive em Wembley no dia 13 de Julho de 1985 estive
em Bel Air quando eles vieram ao Fórum la para o Agosto de 1981,
arrependido que eu somente os itens únicos assinaram por eles e você
não faz, e qual é a inveja para? Não lhe estou vendendo isto, você não
pode permitir-lhes.
Um favor e crescem, sinto que você foi o ela
macho que Ronaldo que o homem gordo contratou para os seus prazeres,
está errado eu?
O Brasil é magnífico, a comida as meninas o futebol
mas quando ele vem ao intelectual que raciocina com você brasil deve-me
muito.
Tenha um grande dia.
Oh a propósito, quando Roger me deu
que o autógrafo onde ele diz a rocha no Rio ele ou mim ou o fotógrafo
que foi conosco não sabia que a Rainha ia estar no Rio em 1985,.

The
photographer name was alexildo arlindo moreira working for elektra he
was from Rio and the autograph was intended for mister Alexildo. It was
given while Roger  forehead was being cleaned by  Josilene Iracema Da
Costa an employee of the Morumbi.


Like I said on another thread - ROCK IN RIO is a BRAND, a fucking BRAND, it wasn't some catchphrase that a Queen fan invented someday and that later on was used to refer to one of their most famous gigs. It's a brand by Roberto Medina that didn't even exist back in 1981.







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We got the Universe rockin'!

We got the Cosmos rockin'!

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Posted: 10 Aug 09, 20:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



erick mckay wrote:

Get Brian to vouch me? about you finding Osama? or even better you find why Chenney ran the white house and not Bush.
I'm here or was here to befriend members,I'm not forcing you to buy.

I'm a hustler yes I'm but a hustler for equal rights,better treatment towards older people being abused, towards pets being treated humanly  towards freedom of speech, towards issues that matter on this world but to argue and try to convince you and the rest? hell no, why?

I still think you are a superb human being.

Seriously. You can email Brian at his official website, for which there is a link here at Queenzone. Email him a letter and attach your pictures. Tell him that you have fallen on hard times, or whatever applies, and that you must sell your memories of when you used to hang out together. He tries to then answer letters at the Bri's Soapbox part of his website. Brian is also an animal rights activist.

Wanting proof of authenticity is not unusual in the world of memorabelia. If you find that to be argumentative then then I am sorry.







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Posted: 10 Aug 09, 21:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

http://rockinrio.com/ - Official website





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_In_Rio
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_in_Rio_(album) - Ohh, wait, wasn't Rock In Rio a Queen gig back in 1985?











http://rockinrio-lisboa.sapo.pt/ - Official Rock In Rio - Lisboa (Lisbon) website(portuguese)



http://rockinriomadrid.terra.es/ - Official Rock In Rio - Madrid website (spanish)



http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Medina (portuguese)



You are such a sick bastard for trying to sell your fakes - people have tried to discuss it in a serious way, with serious arguments, and you're joking about it and making ridiculous remarks. 







You won't make a cent with that crap you're trying to sell. Better luck next time.



Do all those links above sound like bullshit? Has Roger really invented "Rock In Rio"? Was it only a couple of Queen concerts in the 80s?








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Posted: 10 Aug 09, 21:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



erick mckay wrote:

I like your request,I will do it if what you are saying is true.
I'm disconnected with most of the rock world now,I'm not like homeless or nothing like that,but I would like to have some back up that's all.

When they came to American Idol I got a couple of items through a friend, I was not at the show, but before up till 1989 I believe I got many from them and not because I was a big shot but because I was with somebody,somebody very important that they(Queen) knew due to business.

Where do I locate that link towards Brian?

http://www.brianmay.com/whatsnew.html

Take the above link. Under Brian's picture at the top on the left-hand side click the "contact" link.

Or here is the email address:  brians.soapbox@clara.co.uk

There are no guarantees here, though he says that he does try to answer. If he does he will print your letter at the "letters" portion of the website and answer it at his "soapbox". I don't know if he ever answers any of them directly, should he recognise your connection.

If you look through his soapbox posts you will see that he is indeed a strong advocate for animals and quite into various types of photography as well as music. Did you know that he has a PHD in astro physics as well?  He is quite a remarkable man. And yet he seems quite approachable.

Good luck, Erick.








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Posted: 10 Aug 09, 22:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



erick mckay wrote:

Hello RAF, 18? and all that anger on you? give yourself a brake and enjoy your life.
I have checked your myspace and was canceled? why
This is what your myspace reads:
**Invalid Friend ID.
This user has either cancelled their membership, or their account has been deleted.**

Anyways in regards to me being a sick bastard????????????????
Don't use that language here please.
In regards to your rock in rio and since you are from Brasil again I'm going to respond as best as I can:
Read please:

Olá senhor Rocha, obrigado pelo seu comentário, tenho de saber o que
lhe dá o direito de julgar e condenar-me? Você não me conhece, vocês
têm 23 anos e ainda andando com fraldas de bebê, quando os seus pais
ainda datavam em 1981 eu já assistia aos concertos, estive em Sao paulo
no Março 20o 1981. Estive em Wembley no dia 13 de Julho de 1985 estive
em Bel Air quando eles vieram ao Fórum la para o Agosto de 1981,
arrependido que eu somente os itens únicos assinaram por eles e você
não faz, e qual é a inveja para? Não lhe estou vendendo isto, você não
pode permitir-lhes.
Um favor e crescem, sinto que você foi o ela
macho que Ronaldo que o homem gordo contratou para os seus prazeres,
está errado eu?
O Brasil é magnífico, a comida as meninas o futebol
mas quando ele vem ao intelectual que raciocina com você brasil deve-me
muito.
Tenha um grande dia.
Oh a propósito, quando Roger me deu
que o autógrafo onde ele diz a rocha no Rio ele ou mim ou o fotógrafo
que foi conosco não sabia que a Rainha ia estar no Rio em 1985,.

The
photographer name was alexildo arlindo moreira working for elektra he
was from Rio and the autograph was intended for mister Alexildo. It was
given while Roger  forehead was being cleaned by  Josilene Iracema Da
Costa an employee of the Morumbi.

Just one more time; read this:


The
photographer name was alexildo arlindo moreira working for elektra he
was from Rio and the autograph was intended for mister Alexildo. It was
given while Roger  forehead was being cleaned by  Josilene Iracema Da
Costa an employee of the Morumbi.





I have read the text in another thread - I'd advise you against using online translators. Computers aren't good translators at all - your text looks poor and it doesn't make much sense in Portuguese.

I have cancelled my MySpace account some time ago, and probably forgot to remove the link from my Queenzone profile. Why? Interested in seeing what I look like or what?
And, finally, I have read that little piece you have copied and pasted twice. And it still sounds like the poorest excuse I've heard in a while. So, just because the guy was from Rio, Roger thought about "Rock in Rio"? I haven't heard about him writing "Rock In Tokyo" when signing any Japanese fan's record, neither "Rock In Paris" for French fans, "Rock In Buenos Aires", "Rock In Caracas", "Rock In Washington, DC", or anything similar...
And employees from stadiums do not clean celebrities' foreheads. They clean the stadium. Celebrities' PAs do that job.








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Posted: 10 Aug 09, 23:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



erick mckay wrote:

Hello dude, thanks for the info,I'm not an asshole,and if I came across in that way I apologize.
I knew that about Brian, he is my kid's hero.
I again apologize if I was rude but all of the members reacted like if I was Bush talking about weapons of mass destruction.
I frankly know of the legit backgrounds of my stuff and I did not know I was going to be crucified for just posting my pictures, now I know better.
You have a great day and please be in touch.
Erick

I haven't been here that long but, from what I've seen, you can sometimes get crucified for posting most anything around here. I've spent enough time in American political blogs to have seen and been on the receiving end of much worse though. Not much fun is it? But if you don't defend your turf you can get trompled into it.

Just try bringing up the idea of Adam Lambert singing with Queen again!

I think about the best line I've heard anywhere was "I'm going to send you a box of dildoes so you can all go fuck yourselves!"  ;o)  But that wasn't here. Not yet anyway.

I hope Brian comes through for you on that sort of request.

 






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Posted: 11 Aug 09, 11:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I went to Brian's Brian May Guitar website this morning and looked at his signature, which is part of his logo for the guitar, and it really does look quite a bit different. The Brian signature on your material is quite a lot breviated and runs together by comparison, which does raise a big red flag about authenticity, unless there is an explanation coming from the "horse's mouth" about why it is different.




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Posted: 11 Aug 09, 12:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Brian's signature can also easily be found on Back To The Light and Another World.

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Posted: 11 Aug 09, 16:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



erick mckay wrote:

Hello Cacatua,you know that cacatua in spanish applies to old unemployed and full of gossip women? It's funny anyways.

I'm not going to defend or rest my case, hey I'm not OJ or Phil Spector I'm just a guy that has autographed stuff from Queen that's all, plus why should I spend my precious time arguing with people that I don't even know?

However I followed your advise and hopefully today I will have exellent news for you,they already contacted me from brians site', and of course you will be the first to know, and once I rove my point I will just leave this site,and go where they pay me what my stuff is worth.

I believe all this nonsense of people attacking and releasing their frustrations here at this site is non productive and shows how angry and irated people can get.

Most of them i feel are just frustrated with life and probably were either not treated right when they were kids or just were oushed and bullied around, regardless I'm a happy person with a nice family and just want to wish you good luck and please don't become part of the linchers you seem to have a nice attitude towards people.

Yikes! That is too close to the truth! ;o) Cacatua is latin for cockatoo, and my avatar is my buddy of 20 years, Tinker.

I've received your good news, and that you are well on your way to having a full authentification of your memorabilia!! I congratulate you again - here!! When you stood your ground and duked it out I thought that you must believe in the authenticity of your things or you would have just high-tailed it out of here. Now you won't have to take any more shit about it anywhere from anyone, so at least some good came of it!  :o)







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Posted: 11 Aug 09, 16:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Why was Roger getting his forehead cleaned in Brazil?

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Posted: 12 Aug 09, 08:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


Raf wrote:
So, just because the guy was from Rio, Roger thought about "Rock in Rio"?

That doesn't sound total nonsense to me. Its possible isn't it?