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Posted: 19 Aug 09, 15:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I ask you; do you ever write a song which (I guess) isn't particularly good but is the best thing you could possibly write at a point in time because it is so peculiarly 'you'?

(shrugs)   Just curious.


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Posted: 19 Aug 09, 15:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've started a thread like this except it was Share Your Songs.  Nobody participated :(

Yes I'm a songwriter.

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Posted: 19 Aug 09, 16:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

That's ok, I don't expect people will participate in this - and I certainly can't share mine, it's not recorded yet!

It's just a peculiar feeling I got.  After months with no songs to offer (my bandmate on the other hand has about 10) I had an epiphany last night and this fully formed song shot out.  And it's just so .... er .... apt.  I wasn't even trying.  
Just wondering how y'all felt about that kind of experience, heh.


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Posted: 19 Aug 09, 16:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've written around 70+ songs in only one year.  Is that impressive?  I think it's a good start.  I have about 20 recorded (instrumental version anyways)

I want to form a band but the band my friends are in have about 7 people already.  I need to put some advertisements out and start auditioning sometime.  There's plenty of time for that though.  I am only 16

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Posted: 19 Aug 09, 16:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Zebonka12 wrote:

I ask you; do you ever write a song which (I guess) isn't particularly good but is the best thing you could possibly write at a point in time because it is so peculiarly 'you'?

It's a very interesting thread and it would be sad if people didn't share their experiences. 

I have absolutely no talent for writing songs. None at all. I have some physical, motor skills but there's actually nothing musical inside of me: I'm as dry as a dead fallen thin branch in the ruthless summer sunshine.
 
The closest to this experience you describe I ever had was borne out of a failure in the execution of a stupid canon I had already played hundreds of times before. I started to feel a pain in one of my left-hand fingers and was tired, it was one of the last presentations; I wrongly tried to reposition my hands to relieve the pain and my left-hand ended up slipping over some three keys and I immediately changed the second voicing to a different mode and for about 0:30 seconds I developed the melody in this way. I knew the second I did it that it sounded nice, at least to me. 

After the thing, I was exhilarated. I remember going to a bar of sorts inside the theater and ordering a coke or something. I took some time to rejoin the band at the backstage (it sounds fancy, but it was actually just a wooden structrure and table on which there was water and some food for part of the band; it was never enough for the whole band!). 

As I walked up the plataform I look at one of my teachers and I was frozen with fear. The relief arrived when he came to give me a very brief (hehe) hug and said: "Great job there!" Those who had noticed it, especially a dear friend of mine, congratulated me on the "exquisite variation". 

---

So that's it. It wasn't something particularly good, it was, in fact, borne out of a mistake I had made, I didn't know, and don't know, up until today how I managed to recover the shape of the melody, but I knew it had been my greatest artistic output at that time. 

No one cared about it the day after the performance, but it kept being important to me as an endearing moment of my life and a reminder that I might do something which, albeit absolutely little and even insignificant to others, meant a lot to me and showed me that I had something more than a score printed in my mind. 



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Posted: 20 Aug 09, 06:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I actually don't write songs, but I write poems. I could write the lyrics for a song-  but nobody need it. Besides- it's important to participate with other musicians.
About the writing- sometimes it comes quickly. It's like a flash in my head. Sometimes I can't write for a couple of months. Mostly it depends on my mood and ideas.

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Posted: 20 Aug 09, 06:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I write music, but not songs. Unless "songs without words" still count as songs. I prefer instrumental music.



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Posted: 20 Aug 09, 07:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ha!  I still count instrumentals as songs.  Marwa Blues anyone?


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Posted: 20 Aug 09, 15:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I might share some lyrics here if you guys promise to comment on them (good comments and bad comments are both acceptable)

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Posted: 20 Aug 09, 15:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

ive recently been going through my old lyrics for our old band from about 20 years ago after looking for something else and finding the lyrics instead,i think i invented EMO by the looks of it.God they are depressing.
and what the heck was i on when i wrote Dream Masters?
"can you feel the needle entering your vein,there's so much pleasure to be insane" was the opening line :-p


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JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote:

ive recently been going through my old lyrics for our old band from about 20 years ago after looking for something else and finding the lyrics instead,i think i invented EMO by the looks of it.God they are depressing.
and what the heck was i on when i wrote Dream Masters?
"can you feel the needle entering your vein,there's so much pleasure to be insane" was the opening line :-p

lol wow. 

Here's some lyrics I don't plan on using so I won't worry about anyone stealing them

Everywhere I look I see
another star in the stormy skies tonight.
Everywhere I go I find
another day where the sun shines a little bit brighter light

I've walked around the grassy plains
I've ran across the desert lands
only to find
a little bit of change
gone away

Every single night I dream
of a place where there's no war or famine
Every time a I awake from a dream
I can see that the world can be a dangerous place to live

I've sailed across my seven seas
I live to serve, I live to please
only to see
a little bit of change
gone away








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Posted: 20 Aug 09, 16:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



lalaalalaa wrote:



 



JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote:



ive recently been going through my old lyrics for our old band from about 20 years ago after looking for something else and finding the lyrics instead,i think i invented EMO by the looks of it.God they are depressing.
and what the heck was i on when i wrote Dream Masters?
"can you feel the needle entering your vein,there's so much pleasure to be insane" was the opening line :-p


lol wow. 

Here's some lyrics I don't plan on using so I won't worry about anyone stealing them

Everywhere I look I see
another star in the stormy skies tonight.
Everywhere I go I find
another day where the sun shines a little bit brighter light

I've walked around the grassy plains
I've ran across the desert lands
only to find
a little bit of change
gone away

Every single night I dream
of a place where there's no war or famine
Every time a I awake from a dream
I can see that the world can be a dangerous place to live

I've sailed across my seven seas
I live to serve, I live to please
only to see
a little bit of change
gone away








Better than any of TCR's lyrics, for sure. And it addresses all those issues dear to Brian: CHANGE - this secular surrogate of a mantra - famine, world, light, war.
 
TCR style would be:

"War is totally out
Peace should be in
The world is drying out
Humanity is giving in

Let's go and cry out loud
For change is within our reach!

(solo)"
 
And that's one of my major problems with TCR - lalaalalaa is 16 years-old. Roger is 83. So you'd expect by him something in the vein of lalaalalaa's lyrics at least - some decent imagery, some lyrical content. But no: all we've got is "Surf's Up, School's Out": I refuse to have anything to do with an album featuring such lyrics. It doesn't concern me.

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Posted: 20 Aug 09, 23:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

id like to think what ive got to write is pure gold 8-)


lol i keed. but theres so often i come up with bits nad pieces of songs, and they never really see the light of day because they sound unnatural. they dont fit in with anything anywhere, so eventually they turn into a collage. thats why my stuff sounds so ADD like.

im just gonna go now...



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Posted: 21 Aug 09, 00:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Cool stuff peoples.

I have another problem with my writing.  It seems like I write the same song every time .... not word for word or the melody, but structure wise.  I mean, it gets better every time I do it, but in the process it sort of renders older songs unusable because while they're ok it's like - "why bother, I have a better one now".


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^i always found it easier to bounce things off my 'Creative partner' and he used to do the same,there be many a time where i would go to his place for a few bottles of Red Rock Cider [its not red and it has no rocks in it] and he would say " ive got this little melody,what can you write for it?" and the next thing i knew i'd have half the lyrics written down and maybe even the chorus too.
but then there were times when i would have written the lyrics and i couldnt get the tune from the head onto the guitar and i'd shelve the lyrics into my folder [i never threw them away] and months,sometimes years down the road Mat would just show me a riff he had created and it would fit in perfectly with lyrics i'd written when God was a lad.


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its_a_hard_life wrote:you nutcase you rule!

joxer replies: but in a nice way :-]

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That's something else I've been learning, haha.  All of these old lyrics I'd consigned to the scrap heap have been finding new homes in my pal's unfinished tunes.

Crazy how well it works sometimes.


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These lyrics, I consider incredibly cheesy, but I guess I'll share them.

Shining Light (influenced by Lennon)



Just think of all the people
think of all those lives
think of the ones who have nothing
every day they cry

Chorus:  Think of all the people
             Every day and night
             Maybe we can help them
             and be their shining light

Be the one to stand tall
for those who are small
pick up the phone and make the call
come and join in one and all

Well they try every day
working to get by
But they still know they can't do it alone
even though they've tried

chorus

You should raise up your voice
speak of those in need
stand out and rise above the crowd
Don't do anything for your own greed

We should all join together
Spread our wings and fly
but the world's still filled with people
who make their way by their own lives

chorus

guitar solo

And when everything gets settled
when everybody starts to feel fine
then we can all come together
we will guide our shining light

Now poor and rich can work together
to make the world a better place
No more war or famine
In a land of peace and grace

chorus

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ive recently been going through my old lyrics for our old band from about 20 years ago after looking for something else and finding the lyrics instead,i think i invented EMO by the looks of it.God they are depressing.
and what the heck was i on when i wrote Dream Masters?
"can you feel the needle entering your vein,there's so much pleasure to be insane" was the opening line :-p



 



 



 


lol wow. 

Here's some lyrics I don't plan on using so I won't worry about anyone stealing them

Everywhere I look I see
another star in the stormy skies tonight.
Everywhere I go I find
another day where the sun shines a little bit brighter light

I've walked around the grassy plains
I've ran across the desert lands
only to find
a little bit of change
gone away

Every single night I dream
of a place where there's no war or famine
Every time a I awake from a dream
I can see that the world can be a dangerous place to live

I've sailed across my seven seas
I live to serve, I live to please
only to see
a little bit of change
gone away








Better than any of TCR's lyrics, for sure. And it addresses all those issues dear to Brian: CHANGE - this secular surrogate of a mantra - famine, world, light, war.
 
TCR style would be:

"War is totally out
Peace should be in
The world is drying out
Humanity is giving in

Let's go and cry out loud
For change is within our reach!

(solo)"
 
And that's one of my major problems with TCR - lalaalalaa is 16 years-old. Roger is 83. So you'd expect by him something in the vein of lalaalalaa's lyrics at least - some decent imagery, some lyrical content. But no: all we've got is "Surf's Up, School's Out": I refuse to have anything to do with an album featuring such lyrics. It doesn't concern me.

"Oh, do you like Queen, don't you? They have just..."

My answer: "No, I guess you're wrong. I hate Queen. I've been so into 50cent's anatomical studies lately. I just wrote this paper: Metaphors of the Body: 50cent and the Candy Shop."        






Never listen to Queen when it comes to lyrics :P (For example, March of the Black Queen, though oddly enough, it works)

BTW- Roger grows up so fast if you say he's 83!!!!!!!


Here's some of my more recent work

The Piltdown Man (a song against evolution.  The opening paragraph is spoken during the song)

In 1908, Charles Dawson, a lawyer and amateur archaeologist, claimed to have discovered fossil fragments near his home in Sussex, England.  While walking along a road that was being resurfaced with gravel, he noticed some unusual stones.  Further examination led him to conclude that the stones were actually fragments of prehistoric bone, leading to evidence of evolution of man.
 
Unfortunately for him, it was a fraud
 
Scientists looking for proof that man
came from evolution
Claim that man had come from ape
Supported by the Piltdown man
Fragmented bones of human and monkey
seemed to connect together
But certain key bones just couldn't be found
'Cause evolution is a load of sh*t

If evolution did exist
God would still be behind it
But in the bible it had never said
we came from fellow primates
The human race has capacities
No animal could ever fathom
We are complex creatures with more complex emotions
The belief in evolution is absurd

Chorus- Did he do it for fame?
           Was it just an accident?
           Did he try to support evolution?
           Did he lie to all the scientific community?
          



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Posted: 15 Sep 09, 19:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I write music, and also songs.


Sometimes it's good, and sometimes it's not as good. If it's not as good as I hoped I wonder what went wrong and try to find a solution to the problem to make it better.

Composing isn't about divine inspiration, it's about working hard.



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Zebonka12 wrote:

That's ok, I don't expect people will participate in this - and I certainly can't share mine, it's not recorded yet!

It's just a peculiar feeling I got.  After months with no songs to offer (my bandmate on the other hand has about 10) I had an epiphany last night and this fully formed song shot out.  And it's just so .... er .... apt.  I wasn't even trying.  
Just wondering how y'all felt about that kind of experience, heh.


So is that the name of it then - Epiphany?





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