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Posted: 29 Aug 09, 15:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Recently I've seen a clip of "Too Much Love Will Kill You" with Brian May and Pavarotti.

I've been wondering how Brian - even not famous for his singing -  can sing so clearly and high (A note) while Pavarotti already was struggling a bit with the G note and more with the higher notes
Brian even sang the B without switching to falsetto it seems.

On the other side once I've seen Brian singing '39 for a TV team and struggling a lot with the G note.

Is there a trick? Anyone can tell me?
I'd like to know because for me the G note seems to be my personal limit in the "normal" voice.




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Posted: 29 Aug 09, 16:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The absolute definition of a blinkered Queen fanboy is someone who compares Brians voice with Pavarotti. You are impressing no one.

Compared with Pavarotti, Brian is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqWqrmsS-uU

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Posted: 29 Aug 09, 17:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I don't care about notes, I simply like Brian's version more.

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Posted: 29 Aug 09, 21:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I do admire Brian for having the....the.....courage to sing with Pavarotti, or to play for THE Queen live atop Buckingham Palace, but having said that, I'll be amazed if someone doesn't come along and start throwing the word ego around. [img=/images/smiley/msn/tounge_smile.gif][/img]

Otherwise I can't help you with your question.


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Posted: 30 Aug 09, 08:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Popular and operatic singing require different techniques. Pavarotti, in his prime, could hit tenor C's with his chest voice (something Brian, Freddie or Roger could only dream about).



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Posted: 30 Aug 09, 14:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Doesn't Freddie sing a D# in Innuendo ("till the end of time") or a D in Show must go On?
According to Brian Freddie sang the latter instantly right...maybe with a little help of a glass of whiskey before.

That might be a reason too in Brian's singing. With alcohol it's more easy I believe.
Probably he drank a good italian wine there.

Before I was thinking perhaps they use a little electronical help like a pitch shifter for events like this,
but it's unlikely I suppose.




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Posted: 31 Aug 09, 19:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



iiiibrahiiim wrote:

Doesn't Freddie sing a D# in Innuendo ("till the end of time") or a D in Show must go On?
According to Brian Freddie sang the latter instantly right...maybe with a little help of a glass of whiskey before.

That might be a reason too in Brian's singing. With alcohol it's more easy I believe.
Probably he drank a good italian wine there.

Before I was thinking perhaps they use a little electronical help like a pitch shifter for events like this,
but it's unlikely I suppose.





Alcohol ruins your voice. Like any instrument, you should really do a proper warm up and if you have to drink anything, then make it non-alcoholic.






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Posted: 31 Aug 09, 20:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I know that alcohol is irritating to the throat, but how did Freddie ever manage to get by so well with his voice when he was a smoker? Or did he only smoke for a while and then quit?


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Posted: 01 Sep 09, 09:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm definitely not a fan of Brian's voice but his version of TMLWKY with Pavarotti was great.

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Posted: 01 Sep 09, 14:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



iiiibrahiiim wrote:

Doesn't Freddie sing a D# in Innuendo ("till the end of time") or a D in Show must go On?
According to Brian Freddie sang the latter instantly right...maybe with a little help of a glass of whiskey before.

That might be a reason too in Brian's singing. With alcohol it's more easy I believe.
Probably he drank a good italian wine there.

Before I was thinking perhaps they use a little electronical help like a pitch shifter for events like this,
but it's unlikely I suppose.






No, they didn't use a pitch shifter...





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Posted: 01 Sep 09, 21:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



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iiiibrahiiim wrote:



Doesn't Freddie sing a D# in Innuendo ("till the end of time") or a D in Show must go On?
According to Brian Freddie sang the latter instantly right...maybe with a little help of a glass of whiskey before.

That might be a reason too in Brian's singing. With alcohol it's more easy I believe.
Probably he drank a good italian wine there.

Before I was thinking perhaps they use a little electronical help like a pitch shifter for events like this,
but it's unlikely I suppose.






Alcohol ruins your voice. Like any instrument, you should really do a proper warm up and if you have to drink anything, then make it non-alcoholic.





Interesting... How exactly does alcohol ruin your voice?






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Posted: 02 Sep 09, 11:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Recently I, too, have seen the clip of "Too Much Love Will Kill You" with Brian May and Pavarotti.

Boy, Pavarotti was really needing the money, huh?


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Posted: 02 Sep 09, 12:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



 



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iiiibrahiiim wrote:



 



 



 



Doesn't Freddie sing a D# in Innuendo ("till the end of time") or a D in Show must go On?
According to Brian Freddie sang the latter instantly right...maybe with a little help of a glass of whiskey before.

That might be a reason too in Brian's singing. With alcohol it's more easy I believe.
Probably he drank a good italian wine there.

Before I was thinking perhaps they use a little electronical help like a pitch shifter for events like this,
but it's unlikely I suppose.



 



 



 




Alcohol ruins your voice. Like any instrument, you should really do a proper warm up and if you have to drink anything, then make it non-alcoholic.





Interesting... How exactly does alcohol ruin your voice?







Rather than act as a lubricant, alchohol has a drying effect on the vocal cords. The vocal cords should be wet to function properly, so its better not to drink alcohol before singing.

Drinks that contain caffeine also have the same effect.
For the same reason, taking small sips of water every once in a while is good for the vocal cords



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Posted: 02 Sep 09, 12:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Mr. Scully wrote:

I'm definitely not a fan of Brian's voice but his version of TMLWKY with Pavarotti was great.


He has his moments, doesn't he? I love his voice, but I admit that he's not as powerful as Freddie or Roger. But when he sings he REALLY sings. Whenever someone tells me that Brian May is not a good singer I always refer them to "Teasin' Around". The reaction usually is something along the lines of: "WOW!!!"
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Posted: 02 Sep 09, 13:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



bigV wrote:







Mr. Scully wrote:



I'm definitely not a fan of Brian's voice but his version of TMLWKY with Pavarotti was great.







He has his moments, doesn't he? I love his voice, but I admit that he's not as powerful as Freddie or Roger. But when he sings he REALLY sings. Whenever someone tells me that Brian May is not a good singer I always refer them to "Teasin' Around". The reaction usually is something along the lines of: "WOW!!!"

V.













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Posted: 02 Sep 09, 14:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



bigV wrote:



 



Mr. Scully wrote:



I'm definitely not a fan of Brian's voice but his version of TMLWKY with Pavarotti was great.



 



He has his moments, doesn't he? I love his voice, but I admit that he's not as powerful as Freddie or Roger. But when he sings he REALLY sings. Whenever someone tells me that Brian May is not a good singer I always refer them to "Teasin' Around". The reaction usually is something along the lines of: "WOW!!!"

V.


 



 



I never heard the song before. You prompted me to do so. Brian sang really good. "Slow Down"  is also quite good by him. It shows the capability of his voice.  Brian's voice is not very strong but with a kind of magic in it and some surprises.