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Posted: 01 Sep 09, 15:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi,

is it only me or the part of song with

Well I got so lonely
Went and told my neighbour
She said mm mm mm mm mm

sounds really like a Led Zeppelin song? I hadn't listened to the song for a very long time and now I first heard the bluesy touch.

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Posted: 01 Sep 09, 15:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


I see "the loser in the end" as a very Zepp song... I can almost see Page stroking the chords on a big acoustic guitar...

But thank god it´s Brian!

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Posted: 01 Sep 09, 17:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

See What A Fool I've Been based on two songs
1) Led Zeppelin - I Can't Quit You
2) Sonny Terry & Brownie McGhee - That's How I Feel


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Posted: 01 Sep 09, 18:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Personally I think it leans heavily upon the Sonny Terry - Brownie McGee song rather than the Zep song tbh. Though thats just my opinion.


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Posted: 01 Sep 09, 20:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Here's the complete story:

In 2004 a fan decided, in a moment of inspiration, to not try to listen to every Sonny Terry & Brownie McGhee song to find the match to "See What A Fool I've Been," but to look at lyrics. He found a website listing every ST&BM song. Reading each lyric, he hummed "See What A Fool I've Been." Eventually, and becoming very disheartened, he reached the Ts, as the songs were in alphabetical order. There he hummed along reading the lyrics to "That's How I Feel." Not only did he find it fit, but a verse in "That's How I Feel" went:

You don't believe,
Don't believe I love you.
Look what a fool I've been,
Oh, Lord, God knows what a fool I've been.

His heart nearly stopped. Was this it?

In a moment of excitement, he emailed Jacky Smith at the Fan Club and said, "Read these lyrics and hum 'See What A Fool I've Been.' This might be the song!" Jacky, also excited wrote him back and said,"I'm forwarding this Greg Brooks." Greg emailed this fan and said, "This is very exciting." The two spoke on the phone and Greg said, "We need to find this song." The fan had been looking, but could find no release listing. There was no record of what album this song was from, and ST&BM had recorded dozens of albums over the decades, on various labels, not to mention non-album singles and songs only ever performed live.

Not to be defeated this close to an answer, the fan marched down to the venerable Sam The Record Man in downtown Toronto. This flagship store, this hallowed place of music, would surely have an answer. The fan went to the blues section and there asked an employee what he knew of the song. The employee answered, "Nothing. But, we can look it up." He logged onto their computer, typed in the name of the song and artists...and lo, the computer said the song appeared on a recent CD collection of ST&BM & Big Bill Broonzy songs, called "Blood Brothers." The shop employee ordered the CD and when it arrived, the fan listened to the song, hoping to hear something familiar. It was a classic acoustic blues number, but hard to fathom being related to the Queen song, to his ears anyway. He email Greg and told him the CD had arrived. Together they decided that the only person who could say whether this was the song was the man himself, Brian May. A copy of the CD was sent to Brian via Greg, with a letter from the fan explaining the great and epic story behind the find. Brian annouced that this was indeed the song which had inspired him, with partially remembered lyrics and a fragment of melody, to write "See What A Fool I've Been" when he was in the band Smile.

The mystery, spanning 35 years, had been solved.

Brian thanked the fan publicly on his website.

The fan sleeps soundly at night knowing he did his share to advance knowledge in Queen-related history.

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Posted: 01 Sep 09, 21:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Here's the song on youtube for those that want to hear and see the lyrics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSVCOdY0Gdw

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Posted: 02 Sep 09, 01:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



AP-Racing wrote:

See What A Fool I've Been based on two songs
1) Led Zeppelin - I Can't Quit You
2) Sonny Terry & Brownie McGhee - That's How I Feel

I Can't Quit You, Babe - is not Led Zeppelin, but Willie Dixon song!







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Posted: 02 Sep 09, 01:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



CMI wrote:







AP-Racing wrote:



See What A Fool I've Been based on two songs
1) Led Zeppelin - I Can't Quit You
2) Sonny Terry & Brownie McGhee - That's How I Feel


I Can't Quit You, Babe - is not Led Zeppelin, but Willie Dixon song!

I know, but many LZ-remake very strong changed music in songs











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Posted: 02 Sep 09, 07:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



CMI wrote:


I Can't Quit You, Babe - is not Led Zeppelin, but Willie Dixon song!

Good point - they're aren't that many original Zep songs really! [img=/images/smiley/msn/wink_smile.gif][/img]







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Posted: 02 Sep 09, 07:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



rhyeking wrote:

Here's the complete story:

In 2004 a fan decided, in a moment of inspiration, to not try to listen to every Sonny Terry & Brownie McGhee song to find the match to "See What A Fool I've Been," but to look at lyrics. He found a website listing every ST&BM song. Reading each lyric, he hummed "See What A Fool I've Been." Eventually, and becoming very disheartened, he reached the Ts, as the songs were in alphabetical order. There he hummed along reading the lyrics to "That's How I Feel." Not only did he find it fit, but a verse in "That's How I Feel" went:

You don't believe,
Don't believe I love you.
Look what a fool I've been,
Oh, Lord, God knows what a fool I've been.

His heart nearly stopped. Was this it?

In a moment of excitement, he emailed Jacky Smith at the Fan Club and said, "Read these lyrics and hum 'See What A Fool I've Been.' This might be the song!" Jacky, also excited wrote him back and said,"I'm forwarding this Greg Brooks." Greg emailed this fan and said, "This is very exciting." The two spoke on the phone and Greg said, "We need to find this song." The fan had been looking, but could find no release listing. There was no record of what album this song was from, and ST&BM had recorded dozens of albums over the decades, on various labels, not to mention non-album singles and songs only ever performed live.

Not to be defeated this close to an answer, the fan marched down to the venerable Sam The Record Man in downtown Toronto. This flagship store, this hallowed place of music, would surely have an answer. The fan went to the blues section and there asked an employee what he knew of the song. The employee answered, "Nothing. But, we can look it up." He logged onto their computer, typed in the name of the song and artists...and lo, the computer said the song appeared on a recent CD collection of ST&BM & Big Bill Broonzy songs, called "Blood Brothers." The shop employee ordered the CD and when it arrived, the fan listened to the song, hoping to hear something familiar. It was a classic acoustic blues number, but hard to fathom being related to the Queen song, to his ears anyway. He email Greg and told him the CD had arrived. Together they decided that the only person who could say whether this was the song was the man himself, Brian May. A copy of the CD was sent to Brian via Greg, with a letter from the fan explaining the great and epic story behind the find. Brian annouced that this was indeed the song which had inspired him, with partially remembered lyrics and a fragment of melody, to write "See What A Fool I've Been" when he was in the band Smile.

The mystery, spanning 35 years, had been solved.

Brian thanked the fan publicly on his website.

The fan sleeps soundly at night knowing he did his share to advance knowledge in Queen-related history.


Well done - I admire serious research ... Reminds me of a similar scenario where the person went on the quest to find the (mythical) "Shaftesbury Hall" that they played in December 1973 in London - never existed as a venue... This date has become mixed up with the previous night in Cheltenham, where there was such a place: now a block of flats, I gather.  All this done in the name of feeding into Martin's wonderful site (queenconcerts.com) - can't be verified tho' without a visit to archives in Gloucester... Still I enjoyed the journey of discovery :-)






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Posted: 02 Sep 09, 07:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Er, sorry to go off topic there...

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Posted: 02 Sep 09, 09:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wait; Greg Brooks found something?


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Posted: 02 Sep 09, 11:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think See What A Fool sounds alot like Zeppelin's version of 'You Shook Me'...(from the first Zep album) 

Bottom line - it's not a hard comparison - they are all blues songs. Same keys etc.



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Posted: 02 Sep 09, 11:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Zebonka12 wrote:

Wait; Greg Brooks found something?

In this instance, the fan found it and Greg helped him get Brian to identify it.







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Posted: 02 Sep 09, 11:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

And at that point Greg Brooks thought, "Why should I even lift a finger anymore?  There's fans out there that will do it for me!!!"

What a sad, sad day in Queen history.  Think I'll go watch Live In Montreal.  Again.

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  Think I'll go watch Live In Montreal.  Again.


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Posted: 03 Sep 09, 01:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

see what a fool I been is a much better song than loser in the end IMO, but i think it didn't make Queen2 for it's lack of originality.  Loser in the end wasn't excatly original either though.

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Posted: 03 Sep 09, 04:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



rhyeking wrote:



In this instance, the fan found it and Greg helped him get Brian to identify it.







Of course; silly me! :)







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Posted: 05 Sep 09, 18:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Very interesting and you can certainly hear the influence!


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Posted: 19 Sep 09, 23:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



mike hunt wrote:

see what a fool I been is a much better song than loser in the end IMO, but i think it didn't make Queen2 for it's lack of originality.  Loser in the end wasn't excatly original either though.


IMO The Loser In The End is much better than SWAFIB. TLITE also fits much better into the Queen II album I think.

I would also prefer the BBC version of SWAFIB compared to the B-Side (and even Blurred Vision)




But btw I just noticed my HR Remaster and Singles Collection version have the left and right channel exchanged ?
Which of them is right compared to the original single ?




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