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Posted: 20 Oct 09, 21:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i was wondering, even knowing that MADE IN HEAVEN is partly made like that, by completing some of the songs with Freddie's bits... what do you think guys, would it be nice from Queen [Brian, Roger and John if he wants to participate, ofcourse] to do a rework of some let's say unreleased song from Queen's sessions, in style of Free As Bird from The Beatles?

from what's known, there are some piece's that can be reworked, some demos and even complete songs with Freddie's vocals on it.

should they do it for example when they release anthology or?... and one another Question, do you think Roger will appear on antology let's say - dvd's or something like that?

Please lets discuss in this topic normally as Queen fans here.. thanks.


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Posted: 21 Oct 09, 00:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



It would be nice to hear something like that.



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Posted: 21 Oct 09, 01:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



theCro wrote:

i was wondering, even knowing that MADE IN HEAVEN is partly made like that, by completing some of the songs with Freddie's bits... what do you think guys, would it be nice from Queen [Brian, Roger and John if he wants to participate, ofcourse] to do a rework of some let's say unreleased song from Queen's sessions, in style of Free As Bird from The Beatles?

from what's known, there are some piece's that can be reworked, some demos and even complete songs with Freddie's vocals on it.

should they do it for example when they release anthology or?... and one another Question, do you think Roger will appear on antology let's say - dvd's or something like that?

Please lets discuss in this topic normally as Queen fans here.. thanks.

It was already done, as you said, with made in heaven, let me live probably being the best example of what was done to free as a bird. But in all honesty I don’t think there’s any other demos of “new
songs” the band considered good enough to rework and release.
So it probably won’t happen, at least untill brian or roger dies and the record company / estate.want to cash in.

It would be nice to hear some completed versions of stuff though.



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Posted: 21 Oct 09, 01:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The best bet at this point would be a reworking of Man Made Paradise, of the already completed songs, and I Guess We're Falling Out or Self Made Man of the half-completed songs....Either would be a complete treat for us diehards!


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Posted: 21 Oct 09, 01:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

So it probably won’t happen, at least untill brian or roger dies and the record company / estate.want to cash in.

Ouch..i share your point of view. And thingking bout how Brian, Roger and John would let the record company to have control of this...wait...or was it their idea to?

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theCro wrote:



i was wondering, even knowing that MADE IN HEAVEN is partly made like that, by completing some of the songs with Freddie's bits... what do you think guys, would it be nice from Queen [Brian, Roger and John if he wants to participate, ofcourse] to do a rework of some let's say unreleased song from Queen's sessions, in style of Free As Bird from The Beatles?

from what's known, there are some piece's that can be reworked, some demos and even complete songs with Freddie's vocals on it.

should they do it for example when they release anthology or?... and one another Question, do you think Roger will appear on antology let's say - dvd's or something like that?

Please lets discuss in this topic normally as Queen fans here.. thanks.


Hiya,
there are a couple of things I'd love to have good copies of just as they are, but also have them reworked into a MIH2 kind of thing with new arrangements. Dog With A Bone would be a great one to have with better production. Feelings is another. The "straight" vocal of See What A Fool I've Been would also be very interesting to hear.
I suspect Polar Bear would be tricky to do, as I don't think it's a multitrack. I also don't think Freddie's voice there matches the way it developed after a few tours, so it wouldn't really be cohesive in the context of a whole album.
I'm not sure about Silver Salmon either. I quite like the guitar sound of more recent work (like C-lebrity), and applying that to Silver Salmon could make it sound far less brittle. Fred's voice is, again, very young. I suppose not more than See What A Fool though...
This would also be a great place for Victory and State of Shock, but I'm not sure that's ever going to happen.

I think Greg mentioned at one time there's a Works era complete ballad. Is that the song that Anita sang (it's name escapes me).
Can't say i care for Man Made Paradise - the Queen version would need to be significantly different for me to muster up care.

The biggest unknown track for me would be Fredom Train. I'd love to think there was a complete Freddie vocal for this, but given it made neither Innuendo nor MIH would indicate that it's a really rough demo at best.
I can only think how awesome New Dark Ages would've been had Fred performed it, but if John stomped on it (as the story goes) I can totally understand why.

I think that's 7 tracks. That's actually not all that far from a complete album. If there actually are the rumoured full versions of Face It Alone and I Guess We're Falling Out we might be looking good. I guess if MIH2 is going to happen, we'll get it in the next 6 years or so. I seriously doubt a 70 year old Brian (or Roger) is going to care too much about putting in the effort after that.

Simon

(ps, I know it won't be called MIH2, but it's a decent way to convey the concept)





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Posted: 21 Oct 09, 12:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Roger and Brian must do this for us-Queenfans for life.I'm pretty sure,that John will be glad to do it...



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Posted: 21 Oct 09, 14:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I heard Fred did a full version of Rock It- that would be interesting to hear as a release. I am not too much in favour of Roger or Brian taking leads, it should have been left to the best vocalist of all time.
I cannot believe John preferred Roger's vocal to Fred's absolutely staggering.
Come on guys the public would welcome any throwaways with magical Fred on.
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Posted: 21 Oct 09, 16:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

By in the style of 'Free as bird' you mean adding contributions from live members to a deceased members vocal then that is pretty much all their options.... durr


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Posted: 21 Oct 09, 23:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Simon Brown wrote:



If there actually are the rumoured full versions of Face It Alone and I Guess Where Falling Out...







hehe i don't know if i'm right, but the version of Face it alone we heard on convention [or they, who were there, and we heard it over youtube etc.] is just one of the first takes, i'm pretty sure newer versions, and maybe complete song exist. but in the other hand, why it didnt make it on to Made in Heaven...

anyway i want more original Queen materials out there, demos, unreleased songs, unfinished, anything, just RELEASE !





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Posted: 22 Oct 09, 02:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm not sure I understand the premise of this thread.

Didn't Queen do this already?  Just after Free as a Bird, in fact?

To do more now, they'd need to do one of "Gazelle".  Which would be like the Beatles doing "Forgive Me my Flower Princess".


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Posted: 22 Oct 09, 07:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


sorry, mistake


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theCro wrote:

anyway i want more original Queen materials out there, demos, unreleased songs, unfinished, anything, just RELEASE !

Let's say they do release them....are you ready for that? Would you be happy knowing that once they're released, that's it? Game over, nothing left?
I think I'd rather another QPR album and tour before we get to that stage.







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Posted: 22 Oct 09, 10:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

another Queen/paul album?....no thanks!....i'm 38 years old. I want the rarities. I don't care if that's it/games over.  At least I know I got them before I'm dead.

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mike hunt wrote:

another Queen/paul album?....no thanks!....i'm 38 years old. I want the rarities. I don't care if that's it/games over.  At least I know I got them before I'm dead.

You say it as if you're not 38, but- 68!
But.... till that time there's more chances for you to get PhD in astronomy than get official releases of all rarities :D







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Posted: 22 Oct 09, 12:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

At the rate they're going We'll all be old or dead, that's what I 'm saying.   Was there any reason for the singles box set?.....

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Posted: 22 Oct 09, 14:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

There might have been a chance missed with this Absolute Greatest album.

Brian,Roger and John could've re-recorded some of the old hits(as like Cliff Richard and Status Quo have done in the past).I'm sure there are old tapes of Freddie somewhere in the vaults of some of the old hits like Killer Queen for example.


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Posted: 22 Oct 09, 15:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"I think I'd rather another QPR album and tour before we get to that stage."

Are you for real? This is a joke surely?

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mooghead wrote:

"I think I'd rather another QPR album and tour before we get to that stage."

Are you for real? This is a joke surely?

Why? Brian and Roger writing new songs, and performing concerts sounds like a damn fine idea to me.








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Posted: 22 Oct 09, 16:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



mike hunt wrote:

another Queen/paul album?....no thanks!....i'm 38 years old. I want the rarities. I don't care if that's it/games over.  At least I know I got them before I'm dead.

On the upside, if you're dead it won't bug you any more. Nothing will [img=http://www.queenzone.com/images/smiley/msn/teeth_smile.gif][/img]