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Posted: 09 Dec 09, 09:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

In "The Champions of the world" (and "Magic Years") there are small clips of Queen from the Magic Tour.
I think I've identified all, but I want to see your oppinions.

I uploaded a sample here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTYslhmbcMk so you can see it directly.

This is what I've been able to identify (hopefully)

00:00:00:00 - 00:00:58:03 - band coming to stage before One Vision

shots where Freddie has yellow shirt and yellow jacket - Knebworth
white jacket, white t-shirt - some german gig - Mannheim ???
yellow jacket, white t-shirt - Wembley (second night ???)
white / red jacket. white t-shirt - Budapest ???

Do you agree ?

00:00:58:04 - 00:01:21:03 - I know the ball kicking is from Mannheim, but is it all from Mannheim ?

the rest is definitely Budapest


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Posted: 09 Dec 09, 10:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



pittrek wrote:

00:00:58:04 - 00:01:21:03 - I know the ball kicking is from Mannheim, but is it all from Mannheim ?

That's my best guess.

You're probably right about everything else, too.



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Posted: 09 Dec 09, 12:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think its a compilation of Knebworth, Mannheim and Budapest. The backstage footage with Freddie wearing the white jacket, with red bits was featured on magic years 3 i think. Please correct me if im wrong.


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Posted: 09 Dec 09, 12:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oh sorry and it  features footage from Wembley too, although not sure which night LOL


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Posted: 09 Dec 09, 12:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"00:00:58:04 - 00:01:21:03 - I know the ball kicking is from Mannheim, but is it all from Mannheim ?"


The outdoor shots looking down over the crowd showing the large oblong shape outdoor venue is Mannheim I think: at Knebworth there was a large guest enclosure separated by two fences from the rest of the field (!) to the left of the stage, meaning as you would look towards the stage it was on your left.  And there was the big funfair backstage. So I think it flips between the outdoor gigs of Mannhem and Knebworth (walking backstage towards and up to the stage) and Wembley: all the tunnel shots and obvious permanent structure indoor shots.


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Posted: 10 Dec 09, 04:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, all the overall outdoor shots (audience) and the shots from the stage are Mannheim imo.  There are 3 little clips from Budapest when the band comes through the tunnel: 0:21 , 0:38 and 0:46. The rest is as you said correctly Wembley, Mannheim and Knebworth


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Posted: 10 Dec 09, 06:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

A big thanks to all of you !


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Posted: 10 Dec 09, 08:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Let me add something from my archive, and i ask the same as Pittrek, try to identify the magic tour parts.













http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfQPNoqeW_k







Footage is coming from an early cut of Magic Years -







00:13 Newcastle
00:29 Newcastle
00:56 Wembley 1st night (?)
01:35 Knebworth (??? or rather Newcastle ???)
02:18 Newcastle
03:52 Wembley first night? (cameras are covered against rain ?)







and anyone can point to any more Newcastle 1986 footage from DoRo, either in MY or Rare Live?







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Posted: 10 Dec 09, 09:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote







"The outdoor shots looking down over the crowd showing the large oblong shape outdoor venue is Mannheim I think: at Knebworth there was a large guest enclosure separated by two fences from the rest of the field (!) to the left of the stage, meaning as you would look towards the stage it was on your left. "







its easier to identify the two main outdoor field venues by looking at the giant screen above the stage, Mannheim - no screen, Knebworth - screen







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Posted: 10 Dec 09, 09:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

identified the 00:13 footage (and later similar). Its Newcastle, from the same spot as the ITV report ,

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Posted: 10 Dec 09, 09:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Miklos wrote:

Let me add something from my archive, and i ask the same as Pittrek, try to identify the magic tour parts.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfQPNoqeW_k



Footage is coming from an early cut of Magic Years -



00:13 Mannheim (?)
00:29 same venue
00:56 Wembley (?)
01:35 Knebworth (???)
02:18 Mannheim (?)
03:52 Wembley first night? (cameras are covered against rain ?)



and anyone can point to any Newcastle 1986 footage from DoRo, either in MY or Rare Live?


Thanks for this video, I've never seen many of those shots !
I would say it's this :

00:00:00 - Budapest
00:05:03 - Newcastle
Budapest again (tunel)
Mannheim (??? or Manchester ???)
Budapest (tunel)
Mannheim (??? or Manchester ???)
Wembley (Freddie running from left)
Freddie's housewife interview
Mannheim
Wembley (??? - definitely some huge oval stadium :)
Budapest (seniors with Queen poster)
Freddie & Mick Jagger at Wembley
Helicopter - Knebworth
Budapest - Roger getting a massage
Knebworth (???) - Who Wants To Live Forever (???)
Knebworth (???) - end of CLTCL (????)
end of One Vision (could be anywhere, but not Mannheim, Freddie is dressed like in Wembley)
Mannheim / Manchester
Freddie's vocal excersise from Wembley
GSTQ is probably from Wembley, and it might be from both nights

BTW I must admit that it's edited terribly :)



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Posted: 10 Dec 09, 09:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote































































































































thanks - i am going through it now :)











































































































































































































































































































































































































To add confusion i edited my original post, where i thought its Mannheim , now i am 100% certain its coming from Newcastle -if you check the ITV reports (youtube), even you can see the same people in front of the camera in red and blue shirts etc.











































































































































































































































































so now the beginning is definite:











































































































































































































































































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00:28 Newcastle











































































































































































































































































00:30 Wembley.











































































































































































































































































































































































































01:38 , 2:42 and 3:51 , Wembley 1st night - same spot, my guess is the first songs were recorded from near the photo pit (one vision etc) , and when the rain started to pour, DoRo moved their camera to this spot (left from Roger, slightly backstage). (3:51 = Wembley DVD confirms its first night, but its not  the Gavin Taylor team but DoRos camera).



















Would be nice the identify the possible Knebworth footage at 1:35-1:38, so one more song could be confirmed as recorded on film.



Also there are two different DoRo shots of the band leaving the stage during the Magic tour, one is Wembley ('get your fuckin cameras out of here'), the other one is Newcastle (at the end of MY, where Brian wears a Children Need friends tshirt. - 'nobody - not even the prime minister - of Yugoslavia' )



































































































































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Posted: 11 Dec 09, 03:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It seems correct to me :) Anyway Freddie wore his white jacket in Knebworth from Now I'm Here to Tutti Frutti, and then from CLTCL to Radio Ga Ga, so it's one of those songs ;)


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Posted: 12 Dec 09, 07:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



1:35 is obviously Knebworth because of the screen (as has been said) but I can't work out which song it is by comparing to the audience video ..... I suspect it is the end of Tutti Frutti because on the audience version, the camera is not on the screen so it can't be compared conclusively.

1:38 My best guess would be  Wembley 1st night because the spotlight is mounted very high and would be consistent with Wembley's structure at the time


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Posted: 12 Dec 09, 08:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

to summarize :

During the 86 magic tour, DoRo's team were at:
Mannheim (band arriving/ helicopter shots/stage,shots from the backstage area, very left)
Wembley 1st night (back of the stadium/1 camera shots near the stage and later left , near the drums)
Newcastle (one vision from teh right of mixing desk  / band leaving the stage )
Budapest (band going thru the tunnel / pre show shots)
Knebworth (band arriving / 1 camera shots from 2 locations, possibly 2nd half of thw show  from ITTWWC to GSTQ.).

No sign of Manchester or any other recordings from DoRo.