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Posted: 24 Jan 10, 02:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Could someone post a list of the 1998, 2001 and 2004 Japan remasters with release dates? Thank you for the help.


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Posted: 24 Jan 10, 06:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Here you go...

1998 card sleeves:

November 6, 1998
TOCP 65101 - Queen
TOCP 65102 - Queen II
TOCP 65103 - SHA
TOCP 65104 - ANATO
TOCP 65105 - ADATR
TOCP 65106 - NOTW
TOCP 65107 - Jazz
TOCP 65110 - The Game

2001 Queen Forever Series:

October 24, 2001
TOCP-65849 - Flash Gordon
TOCP-65850 - Hot Space
TOCP-65851 - The Works
TOCP-65852 - A Kind of Magic
TOCP-65853 - The Miracle
TOCP-65854 - Innuendo
TOCP-65855 - Made in Heaven

November 21, 2001
TOCP 65841 - Queen
TOCP 65842 - Queen II
TOCP-65843 - SHA
TOCP-65844 - ANATO
TOCP-65845 - ADATR
TOCP-65846 - NOTW
TOCP-65847 - Jazz
TOCP-65848 - The Game
TOCP-65856-57 - Live Killers
TOCP-65858 - Live Magic
TOCP-65859-60 - Live at Wembley '86
TOCP-65861 - Greatest Hits
TOCP-65862 - Greatest Hits II

2004 Mini Vinyls:

February, 11, 2004
TOCP 67341 - Queen
TOCP 67342 - Queen II
TOCP 67343 - SHA
TOCP 67344 - ANATO
TOCP 67345 - ADATR
TOCP 67346 - NOTW
TOCP 67347 - Jazz
TOCP 67348 - The Game

February 25, 2004
TOCP 67349 - Flash Gordon
TOCP 67350 - Hot space
TOCP 67351 - The Works
TOCP 67352 - A Kind of Magic
TOCP 67353 - The Miracle
TOCP 67354 - Innuendo

March 31, 2004
TOCP-67355 - Made in Heaven (sunrise cover) (the OBI says 25-02-2004, this is not correct)
TOCP-67390 - Made in Heaven (sunset cover)

October 27, 2004
TOCP 67461-62 - Live Killers
TOCP 67463 - Live Magic
TOCP 67464-65 - Live at Wembley Stadium



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Posted: 24 Jan 10, 10:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank you. Was the 2004 Japan discs remastered or did they just use the 2001's ? One site says they were remastered on another says they wasn't.


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Posted: 24 Jan 10, 10:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



 



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Thank you. Was the 2004 Japan discs remastered or did they just use the 2001's ? One site says they were remastered on another says they wasn't.

The 2001 releases are 24bit remasters. The 2004 Mini Vinyls have the same mastering as the 2001 discs.







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Posted: 24 Jan 10, 11:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Again thank you for the info and the help. Tracking down all the remasters can be a little confessing at times.


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Posted: 24 Jan 10, 12:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

One other question. Does the US version of The Platinum Collection use the 2001 Japan remasters?


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Posted: 25 Jan 10, 23:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

As an audiophile that has bought a ton of Queen, including the Japanese remasters, I can honestly say that I wouldn't spend the money. They are simply remastered "louder". It will sound impressive at first, but tiring and muddy as you listen. The best remasters are the 1994 British ones.
The best sounding on cd are the Japanese NON-remasters from the 80's. Although Queen isn't really in the worst of the "loudness war", the newer remasters are louder. Search "loudness war" to see what I mean. Keep your old cd's, trust me. I sol dmy old ones thinking tha tthe remasters were always better. I had to RE-BUY my old ones. Remastering for the most part really has become a joke and a farce. I fell for it for almost 2 decades

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Posted: 26 Jan 10, 18:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm not really wanting to buy the Japan remasters I am just looking for info on all Queen album remasters.


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Posted: 30 Jan 10, 22:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



 



 



 



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As an audiophile that has bought a ton of Queen, including the Japanese remasters, I can honestly say that I wouldn't spend the money. They are simply remastered "louder". It will sound impressive at first, but tiring and muddy as you listen. The best remasters are the 1994 British ones.
The best sounding on cd are the Japanese NON-remasters from the 80's. Although Queen isn't really in the worst of the "loudness war", the newer remasters are louder. Search "loudness war" to see what I mean. Keep your old cd's, trust me. I sol dmy old ones thinking tha tthe remasters were always better. I had to RE-BUY my old ones. Remastering for the most part really has become a joke and a farce. I fell for it for almost 2 decades



 



Sorry, Im a bit busy and I can't to say much about it cause english isn't my native language, but Japanese 2001 and 2004 remasters in some way are the best, cause they use 24 bit transfer technology which enhanches the low and mid frecuencies, they aren't simply louder but they are deeper, on the other hand the cleanest 2001-2004 remasters are The Miracle and Innuendo, they are distortion free, the others remaster distort on drums mainly and some bass. By other side if You buy the DVD-Audio versions of ANATO and  THE GAME you will get the very best sound available at the moment casue are truly 24 bits audio and contains all the lost frecuencies in the cd 16Bits/44Khz format but You will need a special DVD-Audio Player

Cheers!







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Posted: 31 Jan 10, 16:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Re: U.S. Platinum Collection: For Greatest Hits II, they definitely used a remastered version. I would assume this was the 2001 remaster. Tracks such as A Kind of Magic, Radio Ga Ga, Innuendo and The Miracle, which faded out a bit early on the 1991 master, are restored to their full-length. The total running time has increased from 75:59 to 76:28.

I recall there being a delay before the U.S. Platinum Collection was released, and a press release stating that Hollywood wanted to 'fix a few things' so I always assumed that the extra time enabled them to use the 2001 remasters for I & II. I wouldn't think III was affected, since it was only a couple years old at the time.

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Posted: 10 Feb 10, 14:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I gave up buying any of these "remasters" unless they will turn out to be "original remixes".
The last remaster I tried was the Japanese 2001 version of "Queen 2". It sounds as muddy as usual.
Recently I "remastered" it myself. Which is very interesting. You can easily get it a whole lot clearer, but then you will also find a lot of clicks and strange noises in the recordings.
And I guess this is the reason why they always stuck to the muddy sound of "Queen 2".   

But in the age of mp3-downloads and people listening to music with computer speakers or even cell phones I doubt, that they will invest in really improved versions of those albums in the near future....

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Posted: 03 Sep 10, 11:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Does anyone know if the 'Live At Wembley Stadium' 2003 remaster CD was released also in jewelcase in Japan or only in 2004 mini-vinyl series with Cat No. TOCP-67464/65 ?

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Posted: 04 Sep 10, 02:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

To my knowledge it was not released in a jewel case in Japan with that cataloguenumber..