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Posted: 07 Feb 10, 15:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

has anyone ever heard a snippet of victory.
i havent even heard a version by the jacksons,,it will be on the net somewhere.
curios to know if it,s along the lines of.more to life or state of shock.
on the semi same subject..
anyone know what other,,,queen/freddie/  unreleased  colabrations.there might be out there.
thanks.



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Posted: 07 Feb 10, 23:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Other than newspaper gossip, I do not think this track exists.

Apart from rumours (mainly in Queen circles) I have never unearthed any hard evidence in over 20-odd years to suggest that it does.


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Posted: 08 Feb 10, 09:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

an urban myth?.

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Posted: 08 Feb 10, 14:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If memory serves Greg Brooks once confirmed it's exsistance at a convention. I think he mentioned BM/RT had added some backing vocals with a view to releasing it, but clearly that never worked out.


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Posted: 08 Feb 10, 17:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Jam Monkey wrote:

If memory serves Greg Brooks once confirmed it's exsistance at a convention. I think he mentioned BM/RT had added some backing vocals with a view to releasing it, but clearly that never worked out.

I believe you may be correct - but he has also denied the existence of the track on various other occasions.  (Ironically at similar Qeen conventions - the one in Holland seems to spring to my mind - but that may be a false memory).

Regardless, Greg visits here often - so why not ask him for a direct - 'YES' or 'NO' answer.

I find the lack of solid, concrete, balls-to-the-wall answers frustrating, but I accept, that may well be only me.







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Posted: 09 Feb 10, 14:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The lack of answers is very frustrating for me as well. So much mystery seems to surround these unreleased tracks, what exsists, what doesn't; what's leaked, what hasn't etc.

When collecting, as with everything else, good information allows good decisons to be made, bad information leads to mistakes and losing money.

Collecting Queen can be very frustrating...


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Posted: 10 Feb 10, 09:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



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Regardless, Greg visits here often - so why not ask him for a direct - 'YES' or 'NO' answer.

Yes, cos that'll work! :-)







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Posted: 10 Feb 10, 09:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



John S Stuart wrote:


Regardless, Greg visits here often - so why not ask him for a direct - 'YES' or 'NO' answer.

I find the lack of solid, concrete, balls-to-the-wall answers frustrating, but I accept, that may well be only me.




No, John; it´s not only you.

Too many secrecy; too many lack of transparency; too many contradictions. I guess the vast majority of the Queen fanbase is feeling very much frustrated, actually.


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Posted: 10 Feb 10, 09:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Vali wrote:







John S Stuart wrote:




Regardless, Greg visits here often - so why not ask him for a direct - 'YES' or 'NO' answer.

I find the lack of solid, concrete, balls-to-the-wall answers frustrating, but I accept, that may well be only me.


No, John; it´s not only you.

Too many secrecy; too many lack of transparency; too many contradictions. I guess the vast majority of the Queen fanbase is feeling very much frustrated, actually.

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Posted: 10 Feb 10, 13:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If this track really exists I do not expect anything from it.

Cause the already known tracks somehow show, that there was no real exciting chemistry between them. And I guess this is also the reason, why they never finished them.

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Posted: 10 Feb 10, 14:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



pittrek wrote:







Vali wrote:



















John S Stuart wrote:







Regardless, Greg visits here often - so why not ask him for a direct - 'YES' or 'NO' answer.

I find the lack of solid, concrete, balls-to-the-wall answers frustrating, but I accept, that may well be only me.





No, John; it´s not only you.

Too many secrecy; too many lack of transparency; too many contradictions. I guess the vast majority of the Queen fanbase is feeling very much frustrated, actually.

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Posted: 10 Feb 10, 15:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

John S Stuart wrote:

Greg visits here often - so why not ask him for a direct - 'YES' or 'NO' answer.


Thanks, I just spit my coffee all over my keyboard.  You're a funny man, John.

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Posted: 10 Feb 10, 15:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

IF the track exists.

The Jacksons album and tour was called "Victory".  Surely there was some form of that put to a melody. 

But my question is to Queen's inclusion of the song.  This was not a Jacksons/Queen tour.  If there was at one point a song called "Victory" that was going to be included on the album and subsequent tour, I would think that it would be an all-Jacksons effort.  Bring someone in on another song like State Of Shock.

Now that the great Bald One has left us, we'll never know.


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Posted: 15 Feb 10, 02:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

For those of you who are interested I asked Greg Brooks about Victory, and he was kind enough to confirm it's exsistance:

http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1219052/the-queen-archivists-job-is-not-being-undermined.aspx


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