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Posted: 03 Mar 10, 01:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Birmingham, UK
National Exhibition Centre (Arena C)
September 2, 1984

These tracks are from a new transfer the taper did, supposedly from his master tape.  These tracks sound better than the original stereo version, as they were originally circulated in much worse quality than the rest of the show.  However, this transfer was done in mono.

AUD > Master Cassette > WAV (mono) > CDR (1) > WAV (Nero Toolbox EQing) > CDR (0) > WAV > FLAC level 8

 1) Radio Ga Ga
 2) I Want To Break Free
 3) Jailhouse Rock
 4) We Will Rock You
 5) We Are The Champions
 6) God Save The Queen

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YX0X9UDK

Enjoy, and keep it lossless!


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Posted: 03 Mar 10, 04:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

That's Fantastic!!!
  Thank You so much!!
  Quality of these tracks from previous transfer was really sad thing


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Posted: 03 Mar 10, 07:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for the ugrade!

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Posted: 03 Mar 10, 09:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for the upgrade Bob!




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Posted: 03 Mar 10, 10:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank you very much Bob for the upgrade!
This concert need to be released as it has a fantastic sound and overall is a great performance.

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Posted: 03 Mar 10, 11:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Posted: 03 Mar 10, 11:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bob is a legend.
Thank you!


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Posted: 03 Mar 10, 13:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks!

Cheers,
Tim


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Posted: 03 Mar 10, 13:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank you very much!!

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Posted: 03 Mar 10, 14:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank you very much Sir!!


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Posted: 03 Mar 10, 18:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Cheers Bob.



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Posted: 04 Mar 10, 06:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks as always, Bob.



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Posted: 04 Mar 10, 09:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for the upgrade.

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Posted: 06 Mar 10, 06:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for another upgrade, Bob!

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Posted: 15 Mar 10, 13:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks a lot !
Will listen with great pleasure.


One stupid question to you technical masters out there. There is probably a simple way to create a "fake stereo" version, by duplicating the mono channel on two channels "left" and "right". But I assume saying that I should deserve stones being thrown at me, I'm pretty sure it can't be that simple to be done in a perfect way and to get some real stereo.

My question is, do you think we could do anything to get it sort of stereo, or will it only decrease quality ?


Regards,

Olivier,
Belgium.


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Posted: 15 Mar 10, 15:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It can be done simply by duplicating the channels with a very slight delay.  It's like the chorus effect that's used for a rhythm guitar track.  In the case of a concert recording, it just makes it sound wider.  Nothing is hurt in the process !



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Posted: 15 Mar 10, 16:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



 



Sir GH wrote:



It can be done simply by duplicating the channels with a very slight delay.  It's like the chorus effect that's used for a rhythm guitar track.  In the case of a concert recording, it just makes it sound wider.  Nothing is hurt in the process !



Thanks a lot  for your answer dear Bob, much appreciated. I remember I saw someone talking about that somewhere, but could not figure out if it was doing some harm or not. This is a remasterer's trick I guess ! So it makes the sound wider, and doesn't do any harm. It just improves the listening.

Next logical question : have all the files of this new transfer been released ? Have someone already tried to make it stereo using this "cut/paste/slight delay" process ? Is it sounding any better ?


Regards,

Olivier,
Belgium.



EDIT : just took a closer look at the lineage, it has already been made stereo when using Nero Eq I guess. Tried the delay using Cool Edit Pro but can't save files (evaluation version !). Can be cool !
Also, it looks like lossy. Can someone have a look at the freq analysis here (.Pdf, 3 Mo) : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UFXMFOQR ? Is it due to the masters being of a lesser quality now time has passed ?


And audiochecker and TLH logs :

AUDIOCHECKER v1.2 - by Dester - opdester@freemail.hu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
1 -===- C:\Users\OLIVIER\Documents\1984.09.02 Birmingham, NEC - new transfer (mono)\01. Radio Ga Ga.flac
  Extracted successfully
  Conclusion: This track looks like CDDA with probability 76%
 
2 -===- C:\Users\OLIVIER\Documents\1984.09.02 Birmingham, NEC - new transfer (mono)\02. I Want To Break Free.flac
  Extracted successfully
  Conclusion: This track looks like CDDA with probability 42%
 
3 -===- C:\Users\OLIVIER\Documents\1984.09.02 Birmingham, NEC - new transfer (mono)\03. Jailhouse Rock.flac
  Extracted successfully
  Conclusion: This track looks like CDDA with probability 86%
 
4 -===- C:\Users\OLIVIER\Documents\1984.09.02 Birmingham, NEC - new transfer (mono)\04. We Will Rock You.flac
  Extracted successfully
  Conclusion: This track looks like MPEG with probability 95%
 
5 -===- C:\Users\OLIVIER\Documents\1984.09.02 Birmingham, NEC - new transfer (mono)\05. We Are The Champions.flac
  Extracted successfully
  Conclusion: This track looks like CDDA with probability 43%
 
6 -===- C:\Users\OLIVIER\Documents\1984.09.02 Birmingham, NEC - new transfer (mono)\06. God Save The Queen.flac
  Extracted successfully
  Conclusion: This track looks like MPEG with probability 92%
 
 
 
01. Radio Ga Ga.flac:  successfully decoded to 'C:\Users\OLIVIER\Documents\1984.09.02 Birmingham, NEC - new transfer (mono)\WAV\01. Radio Ga Ga.wav'.
02. I Want To Break Free.flac:  successfully decoded to 'C:\Users\OLIVIER\Documents\1984.09.02 Birmingham, NEC - new transfer (mono)\WAV\02. I Want To Break Free.wav'.
03. Jailhouse Rock.flac:  successfully decoded to 'C:\Users\OLIVIER\Documents\1984.09.02 Birmingham, NEC - new transfer (mono)\WAV\03. Jailhouse Rock.wav'.
04. We Will Rock You.flac:  successfully decoded to 'C:\Users\OLIVIER\Documents\1984.09.02 Birmingham, NEC - new transfer (mono)\WAV\04. We Will Rock You.wav'.
05. We Are The Champions.flac:  successfully decoded to 'C:\Users\OLIVIER\Documents\1984.09.02 Birmingham, NEC - new transfer (mono)\WAV\05. We Are The Champions.wav'.
06. God Save The Queen.flac:  successfully decoded to 'C:\Users\OLIVIER\Documents\1984.09.02 Birmingham, NEC - new transfer (mono)\WAV\06. God Save The Queen.wav'.
 
No errors occured.
 
 
C:\Users\OLIVIER\Documents\1984.09.02 Birmingham, NEC - new transfer (mono)\WAV\01. Radio Ga Ga.wav:  track looks like CDDA with probability 86%.
C:\Users\OLIVIER\Documents\1984.09.02 Birmingham, NEC - new transfer (mono)\WAV\02. I Want To Break Free.wav:  track looks like CDDA with probability 43%.
C:\Users\OLIVIER\Documents\1984.09.02 Birmingham, NEC - new transfer (mono)\WAV\03. Jailhouse Rock.wav:  track looks like CDDA with probability 43%.
C:\Users\OLIVIER\Documents\1984.09.02 Birmingham, NEC - new transfer (mono)\WAV\04. We Will Rock You.wav:  track looks like CDDA with probability 54%.
C:\Users\OLIVIER\Documents\1984.09.02 Birmingham, NEC - new transfer (mono)\WAV\05. We Are The Champions.wav:  track looks like MPEG with probability 90%.
C:\Users\OLIVIER\Documents\1984.09.02 Birmingham, NEC - new transfer (mono)\WAV\06. God Save The Queen.wav:  track looks like MPEG with probability 100%.
 
No errors occured.
 





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