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Posted: 10 Mar 10, 15:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've been having this arguement for a long time.

Fish cannot drown.

When a fish runs out of oxygen molecules to breathe, it will suffocate; not drown.  Suffocation is the result of dying from lack of oxygen molecules to breathe.  Drowning is the result of dying from water molecules entering your lungs (not gills), preventing your lungs from taking in air.  A fish's gills take in water for the oxygen molecules and release the water that isn't needed.  If there are no oxygen molecules to take in, then the fish will die from lack of oxygen, also known as suffocation.  For a fish to successfully drown, it would have to die from the process of the gills taking in the water, which is impossible considering that fish take in water every few seconds.  At that rate fish would be extinct already.

anyone disagree?

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Posted: 10 Mar 10, 16:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote




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Posted: 10 Mar 10, 16:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



brENsKi wrote:

i disagree. i have read it somewhere that fish can drown
if water enters the gills backward...it can flood the gills with too much water....ie drowning

but it's death would be the cause of lack of oxygen....ie suffocating.

Drowning typically takes lungs.  There are fish that have lungs, but even they don't drown.

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Posted: 10 Mar 10, 17:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote




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Posted: 10 Mar 10, 18:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

if fish can drown... i don't know why, but this is weird!


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Posted: 11 Mar 10, 12:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



brENsKi wrote:

no. fish can drown through too much oxygen entering their breathing organs...thereby giving the gills too much oxygen to process

this can happen two ways:-

When a fish is taken out of water, and exposed only to air, not to oxygen and hydrogen containing water, its gills are unable to control the oxygen intake, the delicate balance cannot be maintained, and the gills inhale a lethal overdose of oxygen. The fish essentially experiences death by "drowning."

The same effect can replicated in the water by backward motion through the water with open gills. too great a quantity of water enters the gills too quickly, thereby creating too much oxygen to process.....again drowning

and you are not debating. you are stating something as if it's a fact. you need to check your facts first. debate is about opinion not cold hard facts.


But drowning isn't death by too much oxygen.






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Posted: 11 Mar 10, 15:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



brENsKi wrote:

oh f-f-s !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...your nick is even "lalaalalaa"...i can almost imagine you...fingers in ears, making that stupid childish "lalaalalaa" noise, refusing to listen to anyone

here you go:

Drowning is death from suffocation (asphyxia) caused by a liquid entering the lungs and preventing the absorption of oxygen leading to cerebral hypoxia and cardiac arrest. Lunetta, P. & Modell, J.H. (2005): Macropathological, Microscopical, and Laboratory Findings in Drowning Victims. ...


tell me exactly what happens when too much oxygen fills a fishes gills...how does it get there? thru too much WATER entering its gills....drowning

now please stop

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Posted: 11 Mar 10, 17:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



brENsKi wrote:

twat, stupid c*nt, you asked a question and got an answer...but still behaved like a spoilt brat...is it any wonder QZers get pissed with you and your "hilly-billy-brained" friends

Calm down, hothead.   Nobody here on Queenzone has gotten angry with me before, so you are the first.  Congrats ;)

BTW- I'm not friends with anyone here so I really don't know who you are referring to. XP

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Posted: 11 Mar 10, 17:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



 



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brENsKi wrote:



 



 



 



twat, stupid c*nt, you asked a question and got an answer...but still behaved like a spoilt brat...is it any wonder QZers get pissed with you and your "hilly-billy-brained" friends



 



 



 


Calm down, hothead.   Nobody here on Queenzone has gotten angry with me before, so you are the first.  Congrats ;)

BTW- I'm not friends with anyone here so I really don't know who you are referring to. XP

Fish cannot drown.

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Posted: 11 Mar 10, 17:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

didn't say you can't utter your opinion. what i said was you get an answer to your question but still keep chipping away....

i'm going now.....no point trying to help those that can't be helped......i've deleted my posts...as i feel sure that given the opportunity, you will probably be happy arguing with yourself...so have fun

just remember one thing....it's still really cold out....so in the interests of preserving your sense of taste try and find something else to do tomorrow that doesn't involve your usual pasttime.....licking windows...




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Posted: 11 Mar 10, 17:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



brENsKi wrote:

didn't say you can't utter your opinion. what i said was you get an answer to your question but still keep chipping away....

i'm going now.....no point trying to help those that can't be helped......i've deleted my posts...as i feel sure that given the opportunity, you will probably be happy arguing with yourself...so have fun

just remember one thing....it's still really cold out....so in the interests of preserving your sense of taste try and find something else to do tomorrow that doesn't involve your usual pasttime.....licking windows...


actually around here it's in the 60s ;)







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Posted: 13 Mar 10, 06:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hey Brenski-

Why'd you edit your posts out?  I was really hoping that you could explain how water travels "backwards" through the gills.

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Posted: 13 Mar 10, 06:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oh, I almost forgot.  In case I want to go back and edit this post, shit fuck damn hell ass vuh-vuh-vagina.

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Posted: 15 Mar 10, 07:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Micrówave wrote:

Hey Brenski-

Why'd you edit your posts out?  I was really hoping that you could explain how water travels "backwards" through the gills.

I quoted most of what he said so it's still here whether he likes it or not :P







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Posted: 16 Mar 10, 18:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The answer to your question is yes. Fish drown in air.


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Posted: 17 Mar 10, 07:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Jam Monkey wrote:

The answer to your question is yes. Fish drown in air.

nope.  Fish suffocate in air.