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Posted: 08 Apr 10, 22:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Considering the fact that Queen's last tour with Freddie Mercury was during the Hot Space tour 1982, what if Queen returned to North America after their monumental success in Europe from their Magic Tour 1986??!!! I'm sure they would have had a great success if they integrated more songs from the movie HIGHLANDER that was a huge hit in the US. Imagine Queen doing back to back shows in America's largest stadiums sporting their new songs like PRINCES OF THE UNIVERSE and incorporate GIMME THE PRIZE into Brian's solo. Perhaps include ONE YEAR OF LOVE into their acoustic set. The magnitude of this tour would put Bruce Springsteen out of business!!!
If only it happened...


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Posted: 08 Apr 10, 23:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

hmm that's a very interesting thought!! Come to think of it? Why didn;t they have any US Works tour or magic tour??? Magic i could understand but Works....


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Posted: 08 Apr 10, 23:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm not an expert on the subject, but I believe Queen was reluctant to tour the US because Hot Space's reactions still "haunted" them. Also, I think some of the homophobic people in the US at the time saw the IWTBF video and cried "Queen's gay," making Queen almost "afraid" of the US at the time. Plus, Freddie's voice got damaged on the Hot Space tour--adding to the problem.


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Posted: 09 Apr 10, 00:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Per the RIAA website (www.riaa.com) AKOM didn't earn a gold lp award in the U.S. until 2002.  AKOM wasn't a hit
lp in the U.S. when it was released.  There wasn't a demand for Queen during this time, so promoters weren't
going to offer them what they were seeking.  I don't remember if "One Vision"  was played on rock radio in my area
(New England).  The other singles were definitely not played in my area.  "Hot Space" basically was the nail in
the coffin to Queen's career in the U.S.


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Title A KIND OF MAGIC
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Label HOLLYWOOD
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Format ALBUM
Category GROUP
Type ST


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Posted: 09 Apr 10, 00:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

BTW, Queen was not a stadium act in the U.S.  They first played in theaters, then played in arenas.  They didn't have a large enough following to fill stadiums here.


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Posted: 09 Apr 10, 00:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

RE:  Bruce Springsteen

I absolutely can't stand him.  Guy can't sing.  Songs suck.  Songs all sound the same.  For some unknown reason he can play multiple nights in stadiums in the U.S.


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RE:  KISS

I absolutely can't stand them.  They can't sing.  Songs suck.  Songs all sound the same.  For some unknown reason they can play multiple nights in stadiums in the U.S. 

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Posted: 09 Apr 10, 03:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



 



Thunderbolt wrote:



 



 



 



skip wrote:



 



RE:  Thunderbolt

I absolutely can't stand him.  He can't sing.  He sucks.  Everything from him all sounds the same.  He's just completely lame.



 


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Posted: 09 Apr 10, 07:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



skip wrote:

BTW, Queen was not a stadium act in the U.S.  They first played in theaters, then played in arenas.  They didn't have a large enough following to fill stadiums here.


Your last line; are we talking about the same Queen here ?







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Posted: 09 Apr 10, 08:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think a return in 1986 was always unlikely.

If they had returned I doubt they would have played Princes, The Prize or One Year after not playing them in Europe.



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Posted: 09 Apr 10, 12:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

An '86 tour would have been great!!! I last saw them in 1980 and missed them in '82 in Boston. But as it was stated by jim Beach, Fedddie didn't want to have to come back to the US unless they had a very successful album. They didn't want to have to "work" for it. They lost fans after Hot Space over here and I was not one of them. Just disappointed when the LP came out. Then they lost more after the I Want To Break Free video. Again, not me. I loved the video at the time. But had they toured I think it would have been a trimpumhant one. Bands like Pink Floyd, The Stones and U2 (for example) can tour without supporting an album if they wanted and people would still come out in droves. Queen would have been able to do the same thing if they wanted too.

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Posted: 09 Apr 10, 16:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



master marathon runner wrote:



 



skip wrote:



BTW, Queen was not a stadium act in the U.S.  They first played in theaters, then played in arenas.  They didn't have a large enough following to fill stadiums here.



Your last line; are we talking about the same Queen here ?





Yes.

Queen didn't have a large enough following in the U.S.   They played in theaters at first, then moved to arenas.  They weren't a stadium act in the U.S.








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Posted: 09 Apr 10, 16:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

There was also the fact that Queen had played Sun City on the Works tour which was seriously frowned upon in the US.

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Posted: 09 Apr 10, 16:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think they would have still ignored the US, which was the right choice since american promoters wanted them to play small but numerous venues instead of large and few (as Queen deserved), that's why they refused to tour us back in 84 anyway, who the hell cares about the usa? they were loved in Europe, Japan, Australia and South America it was enough

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Posted: 09 Apr 10, 22:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

They had a big enough following to fill stadiums in the US!

They just would've had to had brought it with them on the plane first ...


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Posted: 10 Apr 10, 00:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If I remember what Jim Beach said it was something like this...
Queen were not as successful at that time in the US and Freddie wasn't keen on doing the work to get that success back. Of course health could have been a reason too. But Jim also mentioned that some members didn't enjoy the road much anymore by that time. "I Want to Break Free" really did haunt them there. If they did tour the US in '86, it would likely have not been stadiums

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Posted: 10 Apr 10, 12:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Didn't they sell out the LA Forum and MSG multiple nights between 1977 and 1982? I remember 4 nights in LA and 3 in NYC in 1980, which means they could've easily played the stadiums of theses cities (I think the forum has a capacity of 18.000 and MSG of 20.000).



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Posted: 10 Apr 10, 21:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Regor wrote:

Didn't they sell out the LA Forum and MSG multiple nights between 1977 and 1982? I remember 4 nights in LA and 3 in NYC in 1980, which means they could've easily played the stadiums of theses cities (I think the forum has a capacity of 18.000 and MSG of 20.000).

When you have multiple nights you have a certain number of repeat clients.

U.S. stadiums are usually in the 50,000 + range.  Queen wasn't capable of doing a U.S. stadium tour at any point
in their career.  They did have certain cities where they could play multiple nights (west coast/east coast). 

Wikipedia states MSG holding 20,000 for a concert, but that's if seats are sold behind and to the left and right of the stage.  Most bands don't sell these seats, so I think a sold out show there in a 3/4 configuration is around 15,000 or
16,000.

LA Forum - Concerts: 18,000.  Same thing applies to seats behind and to the left/right of the stage.

Stadium shows aren't all they're cracked up to be.  I prefer seeing a band in an arena.  Better sound and sight lines.







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Posted: 10 Apr 10, 23:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Interesting information!

Now here's another question: Would Queen sell out the arenas and theatres during the mid 80s tours?


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Posted: 11 Apr 10, 02:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I doubt Queen would have been willing to tour theatres in America in the mid-1980's. If they had, I'm sure they would have sold them out.

Arenas probably would have sold out in large markets, but I doubt they could have drawn multiple nights in large venues, and I question if they would've bothered with the mid-markets at all, considering they probably would not have sold out there.



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