GB: I haven't been here on QZ for a while, but I just had a quick look and saw a note from John Stuart, which reads...
JSS: Confession: I own the best versions of both the De Lane Lea and the BBC sessions (Inside or outside the Queen vaults) and they exist in their original raw (not sonically corrupted) master-tape (not degenerated copies) form. This is not carrot dangling - but fact.
They may be uploaded here under the following conditions:
First: I do not upload them - I would not know how - and I would not accept the respnsibility of taking on Queen PLC.
If some brave proxy wanted to take that role upon themselves - that would be their decission - not mine.
Second: They were not devalued in anyway. (ie musically equalised, MP3'd, traded or ended up on ebay).
TO JOHN, I OFFER THIS (OPEN AND ABOVE BOARD SO THAT I CAN'T BE MISQUOTED)......
Firstly, to state that you have, "the best versions of both the De Lane Lea and the BBC sessions (Inside or outside the Queen vaults)" is (again) something of an assumption, because it implies that you know precisely what we have in the Queen archive, and also, quite separately, what Roger and Brian also retain in theirs!!!!! It's a ridiculous thing to claim. You don't know that. No fan knows that. Such an assumption is a bit 'much' in my opinion, but is typical of the type of unnecessary comment you make that has historically rubbed me up the wrong way. You would have been much better to have instead just said (if you must), 'the best versions of both the De Lane Lea and the BBC sessions (outside the Queen vaults) and then that would probably have been 100% accurate... not that it needed to be said even in that case.
I am saying this so that people here can have an illustration of why I tend to get prickly with you JS when you make those completely blind and sweeping comments that presume too much - things you cannot know. Let's be clear here.... the ONLY people who know precisely what things lurk inside the Lloyds Bank Archive, are Lloyds Bank employees - not you, John, nor me (despite what you might claim to the contrary, for reasons best known to yourself). Likewise, the ONLY people who know precisely what De Lane Lea demo recordings lurk within Roger & Brian's (and possibly John's) private archives.... are Brian, Roger & John. But... John Deacon, not Stuart. NOT you John, not even me as the band's Archivist.
Is this not obvious??? Why am I stating these blatantly obvious things again? Sorry, but it gives me the hump. It bugs me when you continually remind QZ-ers how important your collection is, and that we shouldn't ever forget it. It's not just significant, oh no, with you it has to be more than that, it always has to be something like... "the best versions of blah blah Inside or outside the Queen vaults .... that no one else has and which only you have in your secret but no not that secret treasure trove that Queen don't have, on this planet or on any other."
John Stuart.... when exactly were you last in our Queen archive listening to the De Lane material???? When did you last step inside Brian's private archive??? Or Roger's???? Were you in the studio when we transferred this material??? I hope I've made my point there. It is directly relevant to this posting, and how we got to where we are. I need to make this negative point, in order to get to a positive place, without people saying that GB's irritation with JSS is completely unfounded. It is not. There are always reasons why people get so pissed off by the unnecessary assumptions, claims, inaccurate misinformation laid out by others.
Putting our rather tedious history of bickering to one side for the moment (if we are ever to make any constructive progress for the benefit of Queen and Queen Fans), there has been SO MANY mentions on this site over the years, from you John, about the various rare Queen audio treasures you have in your collection.
Obviously, these things are of interest; to fans, to QPL, to me, to anyone who is genuinely intent upon offering the best and most significant Queen products in the future. We ALL want that; we all long for the very best and most fascinating and historically significant rare recordings to come to the fore - and some of us have waited 30 years or more to have them quite literally within ear-shot.
So, John, why don't you and I meet up and sit and talk properly about what you have, that we do not have, and what if anything (from that material) is worth doing something with??? Let's get together, cut thru all the bullshit, and try to make some proper constructive progress.
It is VERY VERY SIMPLE for you to now list all the reasons why you WON'T do that, why you CAN'T do that. You can sit there and cite all the bad history you and I have, and all the ways in which you feel you have been badly treated, and so on and so forth, for the next 10 years, but ultimately it will lead nowhere. Nobody benefits that way. The likelihood is - let's be blunt - that you and I will die before your collection actually makes it onto the public stage.... and then, when you've gone to meet your Mercurial Music Maker, your family will put 6 boxes of your precious Queen 'gems' into a local boot sale - £25 the lot. These things happen!!!
I regard our niggling nit-picking history as just a bit of fun, not to be taken remotely seriously. Some people may take certain issues and themselves far more seriously than they should, but I'm not one of them. I hope you're not.
I would like to see what exactly it is you have, as i have stated before at least twice in the last 12 years - and discuss whether any of it is relevant to the serious work we are currently involved in within QPL. Right NOW is the most exciting period I've been involved in for QPL for the past decade or so. MANY wonderful things are being discussed. So, let's cut the crap, let's NOT have to sit now, again, and read a list of reasons why you CAN'T or WON'T meet me half way with this. That's already been done a thousand times on QZ. We know ALL that history John. Let's move FORWARDS not BACKWARDS again.
I'm certain that every person here on QZ knows all the bad things about me, GB, and about QPL and how shabbily I treated John when I was responsible for one of his rare (Ibex) recordings being lost (even tho it happened via the record company)... and you also know that I apologised profusely, several times. We all know this stuff. Do we need to go there AGAIN? Must we? Can we please move on to somewhere new and positive before too many more of us snuff it before these rarities emerge?
I will tell you all now.... I will ONLY move forwards from this, and I will NOT keep going over and over old stuff from years ago, because people have grudges dating back 6, 8, 10 years or more. Life is too short. We progress these important Queen rarity issues, or we shut up. Fair enough???
John... do you want to make proper serious progress for the good of all Queen projects (potentially, hopefully), or do you want to stay in the past, making bugger all progress????
I see you have offered up 'your' De Lane Lea Queen sessions for general grabs. I'm not getting into that. I'll instead stay, with a similar motivation in mind, let's talk and see where we can go with it.
This ALSO is not carrot dangling - but a genuine offer/suggestion.
GB (Queen Archivist)