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Posted: 05 Jun 10, 07:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I was browsing the sessionography of Queenpedia yesterday, and I came across some tracks I was not familar with:

Nevermore (Electric Piano Version)
Batteries Not Included
Comming Soon (Early Version)
Whipping Boy
Man Made Paridise (Queen Version)
There Must Be More To Life Than This (Queen Version)
Love Kills (Queen Version)
Creatures Of The Night
Friends In Pain
Africa By Night
Freedom Train (Queen Version)

My question is this; what is the status of these tracks? Are they tracks we know to exsist in the vaults, or just speculation? Are they 'out there' in the trading community?

It would be nice to know a little more, but sadly Queenpedia has no further details.


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Posted: 05 Jun 10, 07:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sorry, I can't give any info on the above, but I am curious if there is any other material that would be considered on par (i.e breathtakingly good) with the recent BBC sessions that  John released?

What material is accurately known to be out there in other fans/collectors collections?

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Posted: 05 Jun 10, 09:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Batteries Not Included is also the name of an old movie.  Any connection to the movie ?

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Posted: 05 Jun 10, 10:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

you must add "Assassin"...


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Posted: 05 Jun 10, 11:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Jam Monkey wrote: I was browsing the sessionography of Queenpedia yesterday, and I came across some tracks I was not familar with:

Nevermore (Electric Piano Version)
Creatures Of The Night

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Having searched for some of these track for many, many years, I can definitely conclude that neither of the above actually exist.

The first was a poor degenerated copy of the BBC version, which at the incorrect pitch/speed sounded like an electric piano. Now that a superior version of the BBC track is available - this inferior version has been superceeded.

The second was the result of an audio test Freddie took part in for the Andrew Llyode Webber musical Phantom of the Opera'. The mythology was that Freddie sang karaoke style to a pre-recorded backing track. While this story may in itself be true, there was no actual recording of the event.


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Posted: 05 Jun 10, 12:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for you answer John. It is interesting how these stories get started...


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Posted: 05 Jun 10, 13:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"Nevermore (Electric Piano Version)"

as John said, it's fake. However, I can't remember it being the BBC version. I think it's the album version, but I have to check it when I'm home.
It was a version where the tape seems damaged as it has an overall ' wobbly'  sound.


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Posted: 05 Jun 10, 13:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

John S Stuart wrote: The second was the result of an audio test Freddie took part in for the Andrew Llyode Webber musical Phantom of the Opera'. The mythology was that Freddie sang karaoke style to a pre-recorded backing track. While this story may in itself be true, there was no actual recording of the event I do seem to remember it was you who said you could hear Freddie turning over the lyric sheets in the recording


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Posted: 05 Jun 10, 14:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

FriedChicken wrote: John S Stuart wrote: The second was the result of an audio test Freddie took part in for the Andrew Llyode Webber musical Phantom of the Opera'. The mythology was that Freddie sang karaoke style to a pre-recorded backing track. While this story may in itself be true, there was no actual recording of the event I do seem to remember it was you who said you could hear Freddie turning over the lyric sheets in the recording

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I don't actually have this recording, and although I do not recall using the exact wording above, you are correct in that for a while, I too believed that the track was supposed to exist.
This info came from the same "kosher" source as a Freddie version of "Victory" and the Andy Gibb version of "Play The Game".
Now, I do not think there is any evidence to support that these tracks actually exist, and have changed my opinion accordingly.
Unless someone else knows better?


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Posted: 06 Jun 10, 06:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

John S Stuart wrote:

The second was the result of an audio test Freddie took part in for the Andrew Llyode Webber musical Phantom of the Opera'. The mythology was that Freddie sang karaoke style to a pre-recorded backing track. While this story may in itself be true, there was no actual recording of the event.
Whilst i have no proof to the contrary of this, I find it strange that if Freddie was being 'screen tested' by Lloyd-Webber, surely any such performance would be recorded (and possibly in a very good pro studio situation if not by a hand held recorder) so that Lloyd Webber could check back the performance afterwards,or use it as a guide vocal for other performers?

Do we know categorically that even if this is not in the QPL archives or hands of private Queen collectors, that this doesn't exist in the archives of Lloyd-Webber??

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Posted: 06 Jun 10, 12:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

@ John S. Stuart:

Am I right in deducing that you own a copy of the Andy Gibb-version of "Play The Game"? If so, could you tell me if the instrumental accompaniment is a) the same as b) much like c) rather different from the Queen-version?


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Posted: 06 Jun 10, 14:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

When I wrote this: "This info came from the same "kosher" source as a Freddie version of "Victory" and the Andy Gibb version of "Play The Game", I meant I personally do not think they exist at all.

Unfortunately I do not own any of these tracks. I wish I did though!

As I said above, I am almost completely sure that they are uban myths. Why QPL or the archivist can't answer this simple question, I don't know.


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Posted: 07 Jun 10, 05:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that the Andy Gibb-version of "Play The Game" was mentioned by Brian originally, upon which rumours of a leaked recording started circulating? Of course, Brian and Roger can get things wrong the same as other people, but if I didn't mis-remember this, the fact that one of them mentioned it suggests that it may at least exist. Not that an Andy Gibb-vocal is something I've been waiting for, but the existence of different versions often allows insight into the creative process.


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Posted: 07 Jun 10, 11:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i always wonder if another version of robbery is out to there somewhere it is annoying how the vocals cut so abrupt.

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Posted: 07 Jun 10, 15:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

play the game with andy gibb i total different from the album version freds vocal is better and more crisper 10x better actually and the music and backing is more electronic, it was actually in mary austins private arcive along with queen and rod stewarts version of let me live in 1983 and that i ok as well, i asked greg brookes a few years ago in prestatyn at the convention and he didnt know so he went up to the stage and the question was asked to peter freestone AND YES they are out there, there are a few collectors i know in scotland where i stay and also 2 people who i see every year in brockville canada who has these and believe me they are brilliant


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Posted: 07 Jun 10, 19:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I wonder if John Deacon is also in Mary's private archive...

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Posted: 08 Jun 10, 05:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

scollins wrote: play the game with andy gibb i total different from the album version freds vocal is better and more crisper 10x better actually and the music and backing is more electronic, it was actually in mary austins private arcive along with queen and rod stewarts version of let me live in 1983 and that i ok as well, i asked greg brookes a few years ago in prestatyn at the convention and he didnt know so he went up to the stage and the question was asked to peter freestone AND YES they are out there, there are a few collectors i know in scotland where i stay and also 2 people who i see every year in brockville canada who has these and believe me they are brilliant
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Somehow I don't find your explanation entirely...reliable.


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scollins wrote: play the game with andy gibb i total different from the album version freds vocal is better and more crisper 10x better actually and the music and backing is more electronic, it was actually in mary austins private arcive along with queen and rod stewarts version of let me live in 1983 and that i ok as well, i asked greg brookes a few years ago in prestatyn at the convention and he didnt know so he went up to the stage and the question was asked to peter freestone AND YES they are out there, there are a few collectors i know in scotland where i stay and also 2 people who i see every year in brockville canada who has these and believe me they are brilliant

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Posted: 08 Jun 10, 08:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

ignorance is BLISS


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Posted: 08 Jun 10, 11:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

scollins wrote: ignorance is BLISS

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given your writing style ... yes, you´re right there !


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