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Posted: 09 Jul 10, 20:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Someone mentioned this song was shown in a doco (but not the edited Japanese TV broadcast), can anyone tell me which doco it was on?

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Posted: 10 Jul 10, 06:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Part of Dreamer's Ball from Japan '79 was shown on A Night At The Opera 30th Anniversary Edition DVD.

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Posted: 10 Jul 10, 19:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I must be blind becuase I couldn't find it, can you tell me where extactly?

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Posted: 11 Jul 10, 06:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The video of Good Company. I believe there are multiple shots of this particular song. I remember there is one near the end (when the brass section comes in).


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Posted: 11 Jul 10, 06:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hint : it's black & white

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Posted: 11 Jul 10, 08:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've always wondered that myself. I have seen bits from '39 (with Rog on the small drum kit) in B/W, but no DB.


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Posted: 11 Jul 10, 08:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sebastian wrote: I've always wondered that myself. I have seen bits from '39 (with Rog on the small drum kit) in B/W, but no DB.

I haven't seen it for a few months but I thing that all of the parts were Dreamers Ball, or ?

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Posted: 11 Jul 10, 08:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Maybe people assumed it was DB because of the Gretsch drum-kit. But during Jazz/Live Killers, Roger used the Gretsch for DB and '39. The difference was that, on the latter, he played tambourine for most of the song and only threw it away for the last chorus (finishing the song on drums) while on Dreamer's Ball he didn't play tambourine. Another difference is John's bass: on '39 it was fretless, on DB it was not.


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Posted: 11 Jul 10, 10:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If I remember correctly part of Dreamer's Ball was shown also in The Champions documentary...

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Posted: 11 Jul 10, 14:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sorry Seb, you are slightly wrong.

Check this video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJgfvp59ExQ

2:42 - 39, from Hammersmith Odeon 79
2:44 - Bring Back That Leroy Brown from Earls Court
2:47 - Keep Yourself Alive (or was it Liar ? ) from Houston
2:52 - DREAMERS BALL from Budokan
2:54 - DREAMERS BALL from Budokan (?)
2:59 - Bring Back That Leroy Brown from Hammersmith Odeon 75
3:03 - Death On Two Legs from Houston
3:08 - '39 - Hammy 79

3:12 - Dreamers Ball Budokan

To hell with Good Company, I of course meant Dremers Ball :-)

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Posted: 11 Jul 10, 14:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

> Sorry Seb, you are slightly wrong.

Where exactly?

> 2:42 - 39, probably from Budokan

No, it's not Budokan: both John and Roger are using Crazy Tour clothing (with the ties), the unused bass-drum logo's Roger's face (at Budokan it was the Jazz cover). As a matter of fact, it comes from Hammersmith '79: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b8hnZRmYac

> 2:44 - Bring Back That Leroy Brown from Earls Court

Yes

> 2:47 - Keep Yourself Alive (or was it Liar ? ) from Houston

> 2:52 - Good Company from Budokan

First of all, they didn't play Good Company live. It's Dreamer's Ball, probably from Budokan indeed.

> 2:54 - Good Company from Budokan (?)

Ditto. As you can see in the left corner, John's using his regular bass on that one. So I wasn't slightly wrong.

> 2:59 - Bring Back That Leroy Brown from Hammersmith Odeon 75

Yes

3:10: '39 from Jazz/LK, see that Rog's playing tambourine AND drums at the same time (the hi-hats are being closed).

3:13: Dreamer's Ball. John's fretted bass is the giveaway.

So there you have it: I've been wrong many many many times in my life, but this is not one of them. Here's the Rog + John combinations:

Small kit + tambourine + fretless: '39 on the Jazz era
Small kit - tambourine + fretted: Dreamer's Ball
Bass-drum + tambourine + fretless: '39 on Races, News or Crazy
Bass-drum + tambourine + fretted: '39 on summer '76 or the Tribute


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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Posted: 11 Jul 10, 18:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Whoa.


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Posted: 11 Jul 10, 22:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Goddamit sorry for the errors, editing now

OK first of all the "Good Company" was a stupid copy error, the youtube video belongs to Good Company so I mechanically copied it, I of course KNOW they never played this song live.
And yes, the rest is also right, thanks for the correction in point 1.

When I wrote you're slightly wrong, I was referring to this :



I've always wondered that myself. I have seen bits from '39 (with Rog on
the small drum kit) in B/W, but no DB.



I've been of course also wrong, because I remembered the footage being all from Dreamers Ball, but as I wrote I haven't seen it probably since 2005 :-)