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Posted: 05 Aug 10, 23:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Recently someone has told me that a recording of the Seattle 7/1/80 concert exists. He says it is titled "Hello Motherfuckers" after what Freddie said at the concert. Does anyone know anything about this?


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Posted: 06 Aug 10, 05:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Perhaps you can ask the one what makes him sure about that and from where this information reached him.
I never heared about that what doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

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Posted: 06 Aug 10, 09:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

1) People say a lot of things, mainly to get attention

2) There is no such bootleg as "Hello Motherfuckers"
3) People create names for their recordings, but it doesn't make them bootlegs, because..
4) Not all unreleased recordings are automatically bootlegs.  It's only a bootleg if a bootleg company sells it
5) If there is no sample, then put two and two together.

Ask him for a sample.  If this person makes any excuse at all without the utmost interest in getting you the sample, 99.9% chance it doesn't exist.


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Posted: 06 Aug 10, 09:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ok thanks Bob. I'll ask him. I doubt this recording exists because it seems unlikely that someone would name a bootleg or recording "Hello Motherfuckers"


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Posted: 06 Aug 10, 13:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sir GH wrote:
4) Not all unreleased recordings are automatically bootlegs.  It's only a bootleg if a bootleg company sells it.
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That isn't necessarily true by definition. A bootleg is produced by sneaking recording equipment in the "Legs of your Boots" into any venue and recording without consent. A private recording does not become a bootleg because someone decides to sell it.

I sneaked a camera into to Q+PR in Dublin 2005, Glasgow 2008 and London 2008. I am a Bootlegger, and those three recordings are Bootlegs.

Did I sell copies? Can you buy these anywhere? No.

I know people don't like the term Bootleg or Bootlegger, but we're all up to our necks in it, like it or not.

From http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bootleg
2 : something bootlegged: as a : moonshine b : an unauthorized audio or video recording

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootleg_recording

A bootleg recording is an audio and/or video recording of a performance that was not officially released by the artist, or under other legal authority.[1] The process of making and distributing such recordings is known as bootlegging.

A great many such recordings are simply copied and traded among fans of the artist without financial exchange, but some bootleggers are able to sell these rarities for profit, sometimes by adding professional-quality sound engineering and packaging to the raw material.


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Posted: 06 Aug 10, 14:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

But hey Marknow,
you can share your video recordings here for free...and you'll be the most beloved bootlegger in this forum.....for a while.

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By the way, whenever someone offers a recording of Bremen 1980 to some of you kick his ass for for that Montreal 1981 copy.

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Posted: 06 Aug 10, 15:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Double-U wrote: But hey Marknow,
you can share your video recordings here for free...and you'll be the most beloved bootlegger in this forum.....for a while.

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By the way, whenever someone offers a recording of Bremen 1980 to some of you kick his ass for for that Montreal 1981 copy.

Those recordings are shared here, in one form or another. Not for popularity, but in effort to motivate others to share their recordings too. You don't really think people who have shared alot of material here do it for internet fame do you?

As for the Bremen comment, you have lost me there....


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Posted: 06 Aug 10, 20:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Marknow wrote:

"That isn't necessarily true by definition. A bootleg is produced by sneaking recording equipment in the "Legs of your Boots" into any venue and recording without consent."

You're technically right on some level, but terminology has evolved amongst a fair portion of collectors.  The word "bootleg" regarding music still carries a stigma from the 70s when the only way to obtain unauthorized recordings was to pay money to someone who was profiting from someone else's work.  Today it has become a term used to distinguish said profiteers from those who are simply preserving music history in a way that it otherwise would be lost forever, with no revenue lost for the artist.

Jamster1111 wrote:

"I doubt this recording exists because it seems unlikely that someone would name a bootleg or recording "Hello Motherfuckers"

People can name a recording whatever they want.  That isn't the issue here, as a tape certainly may exist from any Queen show.  The point here is that pretending to have a recording is nothing new, and most of these claims can be pretty quickly rejected, especially when they refuse to share a sample for one reason or another.


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Posted: 06 Aug 10, 21:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Were going to have to agree to disagree on this one Bob.


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Posted: 07 Aug 10, 00:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I don't know...Bob might be right here. He could have named it Hello Mothefuckers but then why won't he tell me where it is? Obviously, it doesnt exist


It's late, but it's time to set me free

It's late, yes I know but there's no way it has to be

Too late, so let the fire take our bodies this night

So late, so let the waters take our guilt in the t