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Posted: 13 Aug 10, 16:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Okay, some time ago Gregsynthbootlegs shared this gem. Simply wonderful.

He claimed it was from 1980, but I think it's 1982. Why? Well let me explain...

First of all, here is the aforementioned song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64MRl05xF_4

Now, listen closely at around 0:19. What do I hear? Yes, a Simmons drum pad. And as you all probably know, this brand was used by Roger during the Hot Space tour (and probably The Works tour as well, but they didn't play Rock It during that tour).

Another thing: the song is cut at the end. Well, my take on this: because it segues into WWRY (fast version).

Yet another thing: listen closely what Brian does at 1:21. He does exactly the same at the Montreal 1982 show. Plus, I have only heard him doing this during the Hot Space tour.

To sum up: me thinks this excerpt (and thus the rest of the tape) is from Vancouver 1982, which could be possible since no recording of this show has emerged so far.

Well, what do you people think?

Edit: Hmm, the other songs include LMEY, which wasn't played during the HS tour. Oh well, still anxious what your opinions are ;-)


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Posted: 14 Aug 10, 01:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I thought this exact same thing when I first heard it. Also the start of the song - the audience are so loud as though this is more like the start of a concert and not a reaction to a song that was performed further down the set list. And yes the reason the end is cut is because it then segued into We Will Rock You.

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Posted: 14 Aug 10, 01:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hmmm, let me download Montreal 1982.

Cause if I got tricked...


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Posted: 14 Aug 10, 06:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Plus, the beginning is missing as well. That missing part could be the Flash theme (tape version, that is): the opening song of the entire Hot Space tour.


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Posted: 14 Aug 10, 12:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I just got done downloading, and took a listen to Rock It (Prime Jive).

I can't believe how STUPID and GULLIBLE I was!


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Posted: 14 Aug 10, 16:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I feel like an absolute fucking idiot. I cannot believe this. Now, I have to explain to people that the recording is a FAKE.


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Posted: 14 Aug 10, 16:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ah, don't feel so bad Greg.  It's not the first time someone has created a fake recording, and certainly not the last.  They put all the right edits in all the right places and sped up the tape, so it was clearly created by someone whose Queen live knowledge is up to snuff - and it took this long for someone to figure it out.  Excellent work, Rick.


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Posted: 14 Aug 10, 17:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Greg, as Bob already pointed out: don't feel bad about this. It's just one of those silly things. Happened to me quite often, in fact!

I just noticed it by accident, really. Glad I could help, haha. Plus, thanks for crediting me on your website, Bob. Really appreciated.


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Posted: 14 Aug 10, 19:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ah, no prob Rick !  Nice to know people are still checking after all these years.


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Posted: 14 Aug 10, 21:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm more pissed off at the fact, that I SHARED this "recording" to hundreds of people (youtube, Queen convention, facebook, etc). Now I have to tell them it's FAKE!

Now, I'm going to look like a jackass. Also, my friend has it on youtube (the link posted), now HE'S going to get flack for this!

I'm more guilt-ridden than anything.


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Posted: 15 Aug 10, 00:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Greg don't worry. This isn't your fault at all. Like SirGH said, people have done this all the time. If there's someone who should feel guilty for this it is me. I'm the one who has it on youtube with 1,000 + views. Should I just take it off youtube?


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Posted: 15 Aug 10, 00:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

jamster1111 wrote: Greg don't worry. This isn't your fault at all. Like SirGH said, people have done this all the time. If there's someone who should feel guilty for this it is me. I'm the one who has it on youtube with 1,000 + views. Should I just take it off youtube?

I told you to put it up--plus I sent it to over 1,000 people. I don't know what to do. One thing's for certain, I'm only trusting Bob and Queenconcerts for bootlegs. 

Screw "tapers."


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Posted: 15 Aug 10, 11:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Gregsynth wrote:

Screw "tapers."


No, screw liars.  If it weren't for tapers websites like mine wouldn't exist !

And you can't only use websites as your resources for live recordings, because new recordings are always coming out.  People like Mr Scully and I can't possibly know that a recording exists before a taper or a bootleg label lets it out.


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Posted: 15 Aug 10, 11:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

So should I delete this video of youtube or what?


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Posted: 15 Aug 10, 12:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, let me do something on Youtube first.


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Posted: 15 Aug 10, 12:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah, I kinda mis-typed there (with the Screw Tapers comment), but I didn't know what to type!

I already posted some stuff about this on Youtube--lets see what happens.


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Posted: 15 Aug 10, 12:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sir GH wrote: Ah, don't feel so bad Greg.  It's not the first time someone has created a fake recording, and certainly not the last.  They put all the right edits in all the right places and sped up the tape, so it was clearly created by someone whose Queen live knowledge is up to snuff - and it took this long for someone to figure it out.  Excellent work, Rick.
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John Deacon just needs to take up the damn bass again, or a get a nice hobby or something.  This was just mean!