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Posted: 28 Aug 10, 06:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

When are we gonna hear GOOD QUALITY rarities from the Queen vaults.
Does the survivng members of the band know/care that we want to hear this stuff.
I've been a fan for a few years now  (Killer Queen era) and i ain't gettin' any younger.

C'mon guys let us REAL fans hear this stuff, -
I'm sure Freddie wouldn't mind us hearing the imperpections on the out-takes.

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Posted: 28 Aug 10, 10:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The band knows of our desire to have this stuff. If that want to release it, they will. Right now, whether you agree with it or not, their priorities lie elsewhere, such as recording new material other REAL fans want to hear and releasing things like older concerts every few years.

As I've said, I don't believe there's a wealth of undiscovered material in the vaults. The best we can hope for is some incomplete demos, a few alternate takes each of known songs and probably some studio jams. I wouldn't mind hearing this stuff, but given how often I don't listen to the Sessions discs off the FM Solo Collection, my curiousity about hearing a different vocal take for "Killer Queen" goes only so far.

I'd rather have new recordings, the BBC material remastered and concerts.

And once they release all the demos, etc, from the vaults, what then? How long before that novelty wears off and REAL fans start pining anew for every single concert they recorded...then every single version...

"I've got Wembley and Budapest, but when are they going to release the complete Mannhiem '86 concert? Don't they know we want that? Curse them! And I still don't have the remastered US edit of 'Flick Of The Wrist'...real fans want this stuff!' 

Just saying, the demos aren't the end all and be all.

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Posted: 28 Aug 10, 14:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It will get released when it gets released, maybe in five years maybe in twenty five; personally I've given up waiting.

My suggestion is this; make your own box set. There is a huge ammount of material out there to listen to if you are prepared to make the effort to find it.

With a little time and money you can find some of the hundreds of remixes and alternative versions availible (Although take my advice and go for the Dutch Single Version of Flick Of The Wrist, rather than the US Edit).

There has also been a large ammount of unreleased material shared (Check out the link below this post), and with a bit more time and luck you can find uncirculated material as well.

Finally there is a couple of hundred live shows you can listen to.

So I think everyone of QZ should appreciate what is there and accept that the rest will come when it comes.


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Posted: 29 Aug 10, 00:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Amen, JM.

And yes, the Dutch FOTW is better than the US Edit, which is why I used the US Edit in my example...by the time that's all that's left unremastered, we'll have bleed the vaults dry!

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Posted: 29 Aug 10, 07:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I hope that there is more than just Demos left to be released,as Demos leave me cold,they sound crap most of the time anyway.I have bought albums by other artists who on the second disc just fill it all with demos !I would hope for extended mixes,rare live recordings plus tracks that did not make the album.

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Posted: 29 Aug 10, 10:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Not trying to be a killjoy, but there's very little evidence of complete or near complete unreleased songs which we don't already know about (like "Feeling Feelings," "Dog With A Bone," "Silver Salmon," or "Polar Bear, etc.). At best, there might be a handful, which I'd certainly love to hear, but don't except even a single disc's worth of such tracks. They'd mostly come from The Game and The Miracle periods, which all accounts say were pretty productive periods.

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Posted: 29 Aug 10, 13:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Freddie once said in an interview that Queen were not a band that liked to work on alot of songs, prefering to make the choice early of what would be completed. Hence the demos we do have are mainly just works in progress, however I still think that some of those are great tracks; and there maybe alot more to come.


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Posted: 29 Aug 10, 14:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The One Vision doc has him saying: "I like to get a song down quickly, then we have it...the basic skeleton and we can say, 'we have a song here...' but if it's not coming I say 'forget about it, let's do something else.'"

(not an exact quote, but that was the gist)

There probably a few interesting abandoned ideas, but I doubt they're much more than incomplete tracks with minimal instruments.