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Posted: 29 Nov 10, 05:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

http://www.brianmay.com/whatsnew.html

I dont know why he does not like it, its a good place to find Queen stuff that should of been released on dvd years ago

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Posted: 29 Nov 10, 07:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

now thats confuseing, he dosent like youtube yet he puts a video on called "bollocks to the economy" oh i dont know, im realy confused now (as always)

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Posted: 29 Nov 10, 07:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I could be because Brian is a perfectionist  YOU TUBE recordings by fans show the mistakes made by Brian on live occasions. For example the mistake after the solo from IAHL at the Princes Trust. I'm sure this will be corrected for the SKY Broadcast. I could not find another clear reason for his dislike of YT though.

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Well, thank the Lord !! ha ha! A gig without damn Youtube !!! Actually it was fun, but pretty rough. So I'm quite happy if it's just History really. In the old fashioned way.

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Posted: 29 Nov 10, 10:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If you think that's bad, you should check out his solo from Somebody to Love at Sao Paulo '81


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Posted: 29 Nov 10, 10:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

> now thats confuseing, he dosent like youtube yet he puts a video on called "bollocks to the economy" oh i dont know, im realy confused now (as always)

Ever heard of something called hypocrisy? Brian also claims to hate the press, yet gives journalists backstage passes; he also suggests only people who've written musicals should be entitled to criticise WWRY, yet he doesn't own any newspaper and still trashes tabloids; he also claims not to live in the past, but still hides behind the Queen name (which he didn't invent and initially disliked, BTW); he also defends Queen as an album band and (correctly) points out how great Queen II is despite its poor sales (compared to other releases), yet keeps issuing the same old shite over and over again. And so on.

 > could be because Brian is a perfectionist

No, he's not - he's always been a supporter of 'feelings over perfection', which is demonstrated in the fact some backing tracks of his songs have some mistakes (e.g. Prophet's Song, Fat Bots, Sleeping on the Sidewalk, Brighton Rock), yet he kept them as he preferred a great performance with some mistakes over a flawless one with zero emotion.


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Posted: 29 Nov 10, 12:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

But hey, everyone makes mistakes. And I couldn't blame him considering the fact they were playing in front of 130,000 people that night.


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Posted: 29 Nov 10, 13:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hypocrisy? I tell you what is hypocrisy...When people slag him off every time he writes his opinion on the soapbox just because they don't agree with him. And when they manage to meet him they say they love him they want an autograph or photo etc...Or they send him christmast e-mails or messages. And then slag him off again. Why don't you write to him and tell him what you really think?
Never mind. Some people just don't get it. Personally I like reading his soapbox and I get his point. I have similar opinion on many issues like for example hunting. I don't always agree (but very often)but I respect his opinion. Not many people in his position has website like this. He doesn't have to do this. He doesn't have to answer the letters, let us know what's going on etc. It takes courage to do it. He's not just an ordinary person. There are many people who just can't wait to attack him. On this forum or in the press or whatever. Everytime he writes something. But  thanks to the soapbox some fans can interact with him. He writes about many interesting things for some people(astronomy for example). I'm not saying that you have to agree with him. Or like his website. But some people act like children. It's like everytime he writes that he dislikes or like something it's a new topic here ha ha. That's just great. And I love how people complain that he writes about animals all the time instead of writing about music. It seems he should write what you want...and everybody would be happy.
As for hiding behing the name of Queen I have no comment because it's just stupid. And as for youtube...he didn't show his dislike for the website. Just for the fact that almost everything he does outside his house ends up there because there is always somebody with a camera...and I can sympathise. I mean we all love bootlegs but I can understand that sometimes they play a small gig and they want it to be only for the people who where there and pay for the tickets...
And now people can criticise me...but I don't give a damn;) I just wrote what I feel. I didn't mean to attack anybody. But I like Brian's website and I don't get the criticism he often gets on this forum. Just for expressing his views on some things and not writing what some of you want to read. It's easy to write it here, isn't it? But at least find strong and logical arguments when you want to discuss something and criticise somebody.

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Posted: 29 Nov 10, 13:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Dont get me wrong, i think Brian is great and ii admire him very much and also the fact that he supports animal causes and is not afraid to speak out about it

maybe i misread what he really meant by the "damn youtube" comment!!!!

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Posted: 29 Nov 10, 14:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

> Hypocrisy? I tell you what is hypocrisy...When people slag him off every time he writes his opinion on the soapbox just because they don't agree with him.

That's not hypocrisy, that's intolerance, which is not quite the same thing.

> Why don't you write to him and tell him what you really think?

I have. I think he's a great musician but I think he's very unfair with his double standards. He hasn't replied, though.

> Personally I like reading his soapbox and I get his point. I have similar opinion on many issues like for example hunting.

So do I. Just because I think his attitude regarding journalism is hypocritical, it doesn't mean I think everything he does it hypocritical.

> I don't always agree (but very often)but I respect his opinion.

So do I. Saying 'that's hypocritical' is not disrespecting it. It's understanding it for what it is.

> It takes courage to do it

Indeed. But one can be courageous and hypocritical, those attributes can coexist.

> He's not just an ordinary person.

But it doesn't mean he's immune to having the qualities and defects of ordinary people, such as.......... hypocritical behaviour.

> There are many people who just can't wait to attack him.

Perhaps. And there are people who can see him as a human being, with great qualities (such as his defence of animals) and flaws (such as his hypocritical behaviour towards the press).

> He writes about many interesting things for some people(astronomy for example).

Indeed. But writing about astronomy doesn't make one immune to hypocritical behaviour. One can write about astronomy and at the same time be hypocritical about the press. And IMO, Brian is.

> I'm not saying that you have to agree with him. Or like his website.

I do agree with several of his views and I do like his website. I can agree with several of his views and like his website and at the same time consider his behaviour hypocritical.

> But some people act like children.

Indeed. Brian's one of them, occasionally.

> As for hiding behing the name of Queen I have no comment because it's just stupid.

That's already a comment. So you do have a comment.

> And as for youtube...he didn't show his dislike for the website. Just for the fact that almost everything he does outside his house ends up there because there is always somebody with a camera...and I can sympathise.

But the fact you can sympathise doesn't make him immune to having a hypocritical behaviour.

> And now people can criticise me...but I don't give a damn;)

If you didn't give a damn, you wouldn't be here in the first place. So you do give a damn.

> But I like Brian's website and I don't get the criticism he often gets on this forum.

This is a discussion forum, not a worship one.

> It's easy to write it here, isn't it? But at least find strong and logical arguments when you want to discuss something and criticise somebody.

Same for Brian: he criticises journalists for criticising WWRY without being musical composers themselves. So, Brian's just as bad as they are, as he's criticising tabloids without being a professional journalist himself. I think he's a great musician but I think he's very unfair with his double standards. Being a great musician doesn't make one immune to behaving hypocritically.


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Posted: 29 Nov 10, 15:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hey Sebastian. Yes I give a damn about what people write on this forum about some things. I don't worship Brian I'm not a fanatic who believes in everything he says. I'm far from doing that.  But I admit I really like this guy. I'm not talking about his music now  but about him as a human being. And I guess I'm in this strange mood when I want to write something on this forum ... I wasn't just talking about your post I was refering to some posts on this forum in general. I just wrote my opinion because I saw this topic and thought it would be the right place. Nobody's perfect. And I think sometimes everybody acts childish or behaves a bit hypocritically. No matter who you are. We all make mistakes. But I wouldn't call Brian's criticism towards journalists hypocrisy. I think you need to know something more about musicals  to make a constructive opinion about it on the press. But most journalist know nothing about it and they pretend they are experts. Some of them didn't even see the whole show and they write their opinion. Great. They don't like it so they criticise it. Perfect. And Brian wasn't talking about their skills as writers..but he only criticised them for  writing stupid reviews about something they don't  know. You don't have to be a professional journalist to criticise somebody's opinion in this case. But you have to know something about musicals to write a proper review. Or maybe you don't have to. But then you can only write an opinion based on what you feel. You can't compare WWRY to other musicals you can't really be judge of the show...it's like somebody who listens only to the classical music goes to rock concert and writes a review...and it's a bad opinion because it was too loud and scary and he was half deaf after the show..oh and the lights where blinding..:)See the point? His arguments are stupid because he knows nothing about the subject so he can't really be a judge. I believe a person need to "do some homework" before writing about some things in the press such as music, mucicals, movies etc....

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Posted: 29 Nov 10, 16:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

> But I admit I really like this guy. I'm not talking about his music now  but about him as a human being.

Great for you. I don't know him, so I've got no idea, but from what I can see in his soapbox (which can be similar or can be different to his real life persona) is that, while he's got a lot of qualities (like any other human), he's also got a lot of flaws (like any other human). And I do consider his behaviour hypocrite when it comes to things like his attacks to journalists.

> Nobody's perfect. And I think sometimes everybody acts childish or behaves a bit hypocritically. No matter who you are.

My point exactly. And Brian's not immune to that.

> But I wouldn't call Brian's criticism towards journalists hypocrisy. I think you need to know something more about musicals  to
make a constructive opinion about it on the press.

Likewise, you need to know something more about journalism to make a constructive opinion about it on your soapbox.

> But most journalist know nothing about it and they pretend they are experts.

Most rock stars know nothing about it (journalism) and they pretend they are experts.

> Some of them didn't even see the whole show and they write their opinion.

Some of them don't even read all pages of the newspaper and they write their opinion.

> They don't like it so they criticise it.

Same for Brian and his attacks on journalists.

> And Brian wasn't talking about their skills as writers..

Er... yes, he was, at least twice or thrice that I remember.

> but he only criticised them for  writing stupid reviews about something they don't  know.

He shouldn't, then, sink down to their level and write stupid criticism about something he doesn't know.

> You don't have to be a professional journalist to criticise somebody's opinion in this case. But you have to know something about musicals to write a proper review.

That's a double standard: if only musical writers can criticise musicals, then only newspaper owners can criticise newspapers. If you don't need to be a professional composer but at least know a bit about musicals, then same case there: you need to be a bit more knowledgeable about journalism to criticise it. Otherwise, it's what is called hypocrisy.

> But then you can only write an opinion based on what you feel.

Same for Brian and journalists.

> You can't compare WWRY to other musicals you can't really be judge of the show...

Brian can't compare a paper to another, he can't really be judge of a profession he's not involved with.

> it's like somebody who listens only to the classical music goes to rock concert and writes a review...

It's like somebody who's not an expert in journalism goes to his soapbox and criticises a journalist...

> and it's a bad opinion because it was too loud and scary and he was half deaf after the show..

And it's a bad opinion because he feels like insulting the people. If he doesn't want unfair criticism to his musicals and his profession in general (or his noble causes such as the animal thing), then he shouldn't be unfairly criticising other people's professions especially if he, just like in the reverse case, knows very little about it. Otherwise, it's what's called hypocrisy.

> oh and the lights where blinding..:)See the point? His arguments are stupid because he knows nothing about the subject so he can't really be a judge.

Likewise, Brian criticisng journalists and even going as far as to personal attacks is stupid because he knows nothing about the subject so he can't really be a judge. If he whines about people criticising his work when they know nothing about it, he shouldn't be doing the same. Otherwise, it's what's known as hypocrisy.

> I believe a person need to "do some homework" before writing about some things in the press such as music, mucicals, movies etc....

I believe a person needs to 'do some homework' before writing about some things in a soapbox such as journalism, people's skills (or lack thereof), etc. If Brian whines about people criticising his work when they know nothing about it, he shouldn't be doing the same. Otherwise, it's what's known as hypocrisy.


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Posted: 29 Nov 10, 16:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

He dislikes Youtube for the same reason he dislikes putting Queen rarities out there.  He's precious about his artistic output and likes to maintain control over what people hear.  I don't see the big deal.


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Posted: 29 Nov 10, 16:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sebastian may I ask you something? Are you a journalist?:) Ok just kidding. It's really pointless to discuss this further cause we will never agree...:)

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Posted: 29 Nov 10, 17:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's pointless to discuss with Sebastian. He is usually right but when he's not, he'll either a) convince you he is right, or b) write and overexplain/overanalyze around you in circles until you no longer care.

Give it a minute or two before he disects this post into a long refutal. Rule of thumb: it's usually one paragraph for each sentence in the original post :).

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Posted: 29 Nov 10, 17:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm worse! I tend to over-do simple posts (like the "best" versions of a song)!


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Posted: 29 Nov 10, 19:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

>>> Sebastian may I ask you something? Are you a journalist?:)

No, I'm not. One doesn't have to be a journalist to be annoyed by Brian's attitude towards journalists. Is Brian a badger? Because only badgers can be annoyed by badgers being killed...

>>> It's pointless to discuss with Sebastian.

Not quite. It's a matter of opinion.

>>> He is usually right

There are many, many, many instances of me not being right.

>>> a) convince you he is right, or b) write and overexplain/overanalyze around you in circles until you no longer care.

I have never convinced anybody of anything, nor I plan to. Regarding the alleged Chewbacca defence, it's a matter of opinion anyway...

>>> Give it a minute or two before he disects this post into a long refutal. Rule of thumb: it's usually one paragraph for each sentence in the original post :).

Yes, so?

>>> I'm worse! I tend to over-do simple posts (like the "best" versions of a song)!

The world would be so bloody boring if we were all alike.


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Posted: 29 Nov 10, 19:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Agreed. If we were all the same, then the world would be boring!


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Posted: 30 Nov 10, 01:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Zebonka12 wrote: He dislikes Youtube for the same reason he dislikes putting Queen rarities out there.  He's precious about his artistic output and likes to maintain control over what people hear.  I don't see the big deal.
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Thats's what I wanted to explain in my comment. Maybe precious is the word I was looking for. I just wanted to say he his human just like the rest of us. Some time ago I read a comment on his Soapbox about Brian facial expressions during the bending of strings. I seen Brian quite a few times live and also when he makes a small mistake, he clearly showes his dislike. So maybe a control freak suites Brian better.


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Posted: 30 Nov 10, 06:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well said justys, I agree totally.

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Posted: 30 Nov 10, 09:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sebastian wrote: > now thats confuseing, he dosent like youtube yet he puts a video on called "bollocks to the economy" oh i dont know, im realy confused now (as always)

Ever heard of something called hypocrisy? Brian also claims to hate the press, yet gives journalists backstage passes; he also suggests only people who've written musicals should be entitled to criticise WWRY, yet he doesn't own any newspaper and still trashes tabloids; he also claims not to live in the past, but still hides behind the Queen name (which he didn't invent and initially disliked, BTW); he also defends Queen as an album band and (correctly) points out how great Queen II is despite its poor sales (compared to other releases), yet keeps issuing the same old shite over and over again. And so on.

 > could be because Brian is a perfectionist

No, he's not - he's always been a supporter of 'feelings over perfection', which is demonstrated in the fact some backing tracks of his songs have some mistakes (e.g. Prophet's Song, Fat Bots, Sleeping on the Sidewalk, Brighton Rock), yet he kept them as he preferred a great performance with some mistakes over a flawless one with zero emotion.

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maby he lets the press backstage because he "trusts" them to write somethn good on an interview of the show? idk, we all make mistakes, maby he changed his mind on some of them? idk, when i was young i HATED facebook, now im in love with it,
oh i dont know, what goes on in his mind is to him and him alone and sometimes when in fear it can come out sounding different, oh i dont know, nevermind, this is just confuseing, im a lost lamb