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Posted: 02 Dec 10, 09:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Nevermind England. Try again sometime :)

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Posted: 02 Dec 10, 09:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Damn!

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Posted: 02 Dec 10, 10:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Great. I want to be there. Also Qatar!


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Posted: 02 Dec 10, 10:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

it didnt take long for the Scottish mocking did it? lol
however,i had a nice little bet on the Russia bid the other day so i am happy.
and who says money doesnt talk,how the hell did Qatar win 2022? a country that has alcohol bans/imprisonment and 40 degree tempetures in July and who's team has never played in a world cup,FIFA more corrupt than X-factor!
thankfully this wont be an issue to any skirt wearers north of Hadrians Wall as the Scots wont even make it there :-D


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Posted: 02 Dec 10, 10:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I am sorry for England but Russia is a good choice imo. Why did they have to pick two hosts in one procedure? England could have hosted 2022. Quatar is a joke. What has Quatar to do with football? They never even played the world cup. Last week it was still the worst presentation and all of a sudden they won.


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Posted: 02 Dec 10, 11:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

While they may be a joke for some extent, that whole bidding process was absurd IMO: the States ... they haven't got enough football tradition to host two cups in a 30-year period IMO, and it's nice for once to have a global sport that's not dominated by them; Australia? They're probably not a much more logical choice than Qatar, are they?. Japan or South Korea... see my US point. It's nice to give other nations a chance... after two cups in Germany, two in France, two in Brazil, two in Mexico, two in Italy... it's nice to have one in Russia, after all, they DO have a football tradition (well, the Soviet Union did).

I'd love to live enough to attend a world cup in Serbia or Czech Republic, or maybe Hungary if they're ever as good as in the good old days. So, no offence to Yanks or people from the Far East, but I'd rather have a world cup in Qatar, Cyprus or Papua New Guinea than another one in the States, Korea or Japan.


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Posted: 02 Dec 10, 11:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

^at least in Australia you wouldnt get jail for drinking a beer!


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Posted: 02 Dec 10, 11:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

AFAIK, the no drinking thing is only during Ramadan and only if done in public. I love the fact Muslim nations are finally, slowly, getting more accepted. They're humans, just like us, and they deserve to be respected, admired and given opportunities. Plus, from what I've seen, the National Stadium in Doha is gorgeous, and Al Rayyan is a great city. Not everybody's got to be in love with London or New York.


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Posted: 02 Dec 10, 15:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Qatar has more insects than England.

Well.....maybe not.


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Posted: 02 Dec 10, 16:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sebastian wrote: While they may be a joke for some extent, that whole bidding process was absurd IMO: the States ... they haven't got enough football tradition to host two cups in a 30-year period IMO, and it's nice for once to have a global sport that's not dominated by them; Australia? They're probably not a much more logical choice than Qatar, are they?. Japan or South Korea... see my US point. It's nice to give other nations a chance... after two cups in Germany, two in France, two in Brazil, two in Mexico, two in Italy... it's nice to have one in Russia, after all, they DO have a football tradition (well, the Soviet Union did).

I'd love to live enough to attend a world cup in Serbia or Czech Republic, or maybe Hungary if they're ever as good as in the good old days. So, no offence to Yanks or people from the Far East, but I'd rather have a world cup in Qatar, Cyprus or Papua New Guinea than another one in the States, Korea or Japan.

France has only hosted the World Cup once.

I understand your point about the States not having enough football tradition to host the World Cup twice in a 30 year period; however, when it was hosted here in '94 it created record crowds to stadiums that have not been broken since.  And even though "Americans" might not love football as the rest of the world, there is a huge football fan base here in the States that would have flocked to the stadiums and fill them up just as they did in 1994.


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Posted: 02 Dec 10, 21:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

> France has only hosted the World Cup once.

1938 and 1998. That's twice.

>  however, when it was hosted here in '94 it created record crowds to stadiums that have not been broken since.

Yes. And it was a beautiful cup (regardless of the whole Maradona incident), and the big Yank productions were great for the whole show, even the colours worn by the referees, etc... but still, I think other nations should be given the chance before having it again dominated by the States (as it tends to happen with nearly every other major sport). Otherwise we should simply have all world cups in Hollywood and get Morgan Freeman to be the referee, with Tracy Jordan handing the trophy and Diana Ross lip-synching.

>  And even though "Americans" might not love football as the rest of the world, there is a huge football fan base here in the States that would have flocked to the stadiums and fill them up just as they did in 1994.

No argument there. However, there are other countries in the world, also with a huge football fan base, and also with enough motivation (even if with more limited resources) . Before giving the States another World Cup (or before giving another one to Spain, Mexico, Italy, Japan, South Korea or even Argentina), I think they should give a chance to those who haven't been able to host it ever. Countries like Netherlands (three times runners-up), Belgium (once in the semis, loads of good teams for decades), Denmark, Norway, Bulgaria, Ireland, Hungary, Portugal, Turkey... sure, they're not Italy or Brazil, but football's much more than just Italy and Brazil.


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Posted: 03 Dec 10, 10:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sebastian wrote: > France has only hosted the World Cup once.

1938 and 1998. That's twice.

>  however, when it was hosted here in '94 it created record crowds to stadiums that have not been broken since.

Yes. And it was a beautiful cup (regardless of the whole Maradona incident), and the big Yank productions were great for the whole show, even the colours worn by the referees, etc... but still, I think other nations should be given the chance before having it again dominated by the States (as it tends to happen with nearly every other major sport). Otherwise we should simply have all world cups in Hollywood and get Morgan Freeman to be the referee, with Tracy Jordan handing the trophy and Diana Ross lip-synching.

>  And even though "Americans" might not love football as the rest of the world, there is a huge football fan base here in the States that would have flocked to the stadiums and fill them up just as they did in 1994.

No argument there. However, there are other countries in the world, also with a huge football fan base, and also with enough motivation (even if with more limited resources) . Before giving the States another World Cup (or before giving another one to Spain, Mexico, Italy, Japan, South Korea or even Argentina), I think they should give a chance to those who haven't been able to host it ever. Countries like Netherlands (three times runners-up), Belgium (once in the semis, loads of good teams for decades), Denmark, Norway, Bulgaria, Ireland, Hungary, Portugal, Turkey... sure, they're not Italy or Brazil, but football's much more than just Italy and Brazil.

My mistake, for some reason I thought it was Italy, which they actually hosted the one before in '34.

I agree with you; however; from the actual countries that had a bid for the 2022 World Cup the U.S. was clearly the best candidate.  Other countries that have never had a World Cup should host a world cup if they have the opportunity to but Quatar has not even played in a world cup.


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Posted: 03 Dec 10, 13:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

They've still got the chance to qualify for 2014 and/or 2018, so they wouldn't be first timers at their own tournament. For all we know, maybe they can win on 2018 and be both reigning champions and hosts :)

Now, seriously, I wanted Germany to win 2002 because they'd be hosting and being reigning champions in '06. What a shame Oliver (one of the very best ever) chose to mess up precisely on that occasion.

For me, the World Cup (and other events such as the Olympics) has several benefits for the economy and the way the world sees a country (or city), so it's a great way to encourage people being aware of each other, etc. Loads of people didn't know or didn't care about South Africa until some months ago. Loads of people (me included, up until a couple of years ago) only knew Hungary existed thanks to their football. When I went to Yokohama (oh, those good old days), there were people from all over the world visiting just to see the stadium where the final was played.

So, choosing a host works, IMO, for two very noble causes: have a place where people can go and play the beautiful game, and at the same time turn the eyes of the world on it, lessen racism and ignorance. Thousands of people worldwide have just (in the last twenty-four hours or so) learnt the name of a country they didn't know about before. That's a big triumph IMO.

The States were a great host and would certainly be again: they've got the chops, the technology, the money, the people... but it's great to give other people a chance to show they can do it too. And hopefully, Qatar will not disappoint. Neither will Russia, of course.


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Posted: 04 Dec 10, 10:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If Israel qualifies for World Cup 2022 in Qatar, the Qatar sheikh says that as per the FIFA rules and regulations, they can play. Oh, how generous!

Let's hope Israel qualifies for 2022!


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Posted: 04 Dec 10, 12:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

And wins!


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Posted: 04 Dec 10, 21:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah, that would be like, so awesome! :D


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greaserkat wrote:
"Yes. And it was a beautiful cup (regardless of the whole Maradona incident), and the big Yank productions were great for the whole show, even the colours worn by the referees, etc... but still, I think other nations should be given the chance before having it again dominated by the States (as it tends to happen with nearly every other major sport). Otherwise we should simply have all world cups in Hollywood and get Morgan Freeman to be the referee, with Tracy Jordan handing the trophy and Diana Ross lip-synching. "

What an absolutely stupid and ignorant response.

From a personal perspective, I'd have loved to have seen a group match 20 miles from my home in Baltimore in 2022.  Would have made a trip to see another indoor game in Pontiac as I did in '94. 

Best attended WC ever, existing facilities, 'melting pot' Americans who are nuts over the sport..........

The best thing for the WC, would have been a 'Euro' bid for 2018.  Group matches in the UK, Germany, Spain, Italy, et al....round of 16 and quarters at four sites, semis in .....oh, let's say Madrid and London, finals in Berlin. 

And then the US for 2022. 

I just don't get the decision.

How many people are going to drive through Saudi Arabia to get to Qatar..........oops, wait a second.........moving on......how many are going to fly within a stone's throw of Iran.....oops, wait a second,..........does your passport say you visited Israel...............are you Jewish...................??????????????????

2026....Antartica fits perfectly into the mold of 'lands to extend the popularity' of the sport.  Money can buy happiness.   How Qatar will transcend the sport to the masses blows my mind.


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Posted: 06 Dec 10, 12:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

England is blaming the British media. Something like that anyway.

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Posted: 06 Dec 10, 15:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

> What an absolutely stupid and ignorant response.

No, it wasn't.

> From a personal perspective, I'd have loved to have seen a group match 20 miles from my home in Baltimore in 2022.

Wonderful. But other people also have the right to see group matches 20 miles from their home, not only Yanks.

> Would have made a trip to see another indoor game in Pontiac as I did in '94.

So... you already enjoyed it. Let's give other people a chance.

> Best attended WC ever, existing facilities, 'melting pot' Americans who are nuts over the sport....

It was a great WC. So, now give other countries a chance to host a great one too, rather than giving US (or Spain, or Japan, or Korea) another one.

> I just don't get the decision.

The world's not just the States, South America, Mexico and Western Europe. It's great that other territories also get a chance.

> How many people are going to drive through Saudi Arabia to get to Qatar....

Probably many. Things change a lot in 12 years.

> how many are going to fly within a stone's throw of Iran.....oops

Probably many. Things change a lot in 12 years.

> does your passport say you visited Israel...............are you Jewish...................?

The world's not just the States, South America, Mexico and Western Europe. It's great that other territories also get a chance.

> 2026....Antartica fits perfectly into the mold of 'lands to extend the popularity' of the sport.

Maybe it does. Things change a lot in 16 years. It's nice to give other nations a chance. The world's not just the States, South America, Mexico and Western Europe.

> Money can buy happiness.

No, it can't. But the world's not just the States, South America, Mexico and Western Europe. It's great that other territories also get a chance.

> How Qatar will transcend the sport to the masses blows my mind.

Maybe it won't, but still, the world's not just the States, South America, Mexico and Western Europe. It's great that other territories also get a chance.


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Posted: 07 Dec 10, 10:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Haha, best response ever.


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