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Posted: 13 Dec 10, 07:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I know that the song writer will get the majority but do the other members get a share in that paricular song?

Presumably then for the live dvds royalties will be shared 4 ways?

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Posted: 13 Dec 10, 08:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I know that the song writer will get the majority but do the other members get a share in that paricular song?
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I think so, the credited song writer(s) get the majority, with the band getting royalties for the performance on the track.
Tim Staffell also gets some royalties from Queen 1

Live DVD's go at least 5 ways:
Roger
John
Brian
Freddie’s estate / The mercury phoenix trust

I assume david bowie gets a cut for under pressure.

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Posted: 13 Dec 10, 09:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Publishing royalties go to the registered author.
Performing royalties go to the performer(s).

So, in the case of the original version of Another One Bites the Dust, performing royalties go to the band (then split by 25% each, Mary getting Fred's bit I reckon [perhaps split with Kashmira]), publishing royalties go to John.

In the case of The Miracle, for instance, both performing and publishing are a four-way split, as the song was registered as written by all four.

For McFly's 'Don't Stop Me Now', Freddie's heirs receive the publishing royalties. But no Queen member gets performing royalties as they don't play or sing in that version.

Sometimes those things are arranged differently, but mostly that's how they're done.


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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Posted: 13 Dec 10, 12:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"For McFly's 'Don't Stop Me Now', Freddie's heirs receive the publishing royalties"

That's one royalty cheque I'd feel dirty receiving ...


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Posted: 13 Dec 10, 13:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

But considering how big (brief, but still) success it was, it's at least enough to buy Mary's kids another golden comb, or an XBox.


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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Posted: 13 Dec 10, 14:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

thanks for the info

another question though what percentage of the song do the record companies get then?

also presumably for the we will rock you show the royalties goto the band or the person who created the musical?

its just something i have been interested in and wasnt sure who to ask!

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Posted: 13 Dec 10, 14:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, of course the record company and the executive producer(s) get a lot more than the artist(s) and author(s), but regarding exact percentages... AFAIK, they're set differently depending on the agreement and contract and all that jazz.

Regarding the musical: some royalties go to the songwriters, some go to those who wrote the script and organised the set-list and all that, some go to the executive producers. Performers (and sometimes arrangers) are usually paid a wage for their services but they don't get any percentage of the profit. Same for many producers and engineers when it comes to records (albums, singles, live albums, etc.).

Of course there are exceptions, if both parties agree on paying the worker that way (making them 'partners', even if at a small percentage). Actually, that's one of the reasons Alan Parsons didn't work for Pink Floyd after 'Dark Side': he (understandably) wanted a percentage of the profit, Waters & Co (also understandably from their POV) wanted to pay him a (reasonably high) salary for his services, and neither compromised. A shame IMO, as 'Wish You Were Here' with Parsons would've been dog's bollocks.


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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Posted: 14 Dec 10, 15:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I know some people who worked for EMI in Hayes in the seventies/eighties and seem to be'in the know' so I will let you judge.Most groups/artists were on between 15%-18% of a wholesale price,Queen were one of a very few on 20% royalty.There is then a publishing royalty of a few percent for the songwriter,worked out somehow by the accountants.Something like Greatest hits 1  generated about £200 million sales by 1990,which equates to about £40 million to the band plus songwriting royalties(£5 million plus),Basically, a LOT more than most get paid now,the money is in touring/sponsorship now.No idea if this is true,but sounds good..Their overseas company 'Raincloud productions' paid them about £3 million each in 1980..in other words,they must be LOADED, I reckon at least £100 million each of earnings,enough from some Freddie parties(this same person had something to do with his 35th birthday,flying 100 out to New York on Concorde at $7000 a throw)

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Posted: 14 Dec 10, 16:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I know from the sunday times rich list that Brian Roger and John are in the £65 mil to £70 million mark although that is estimated and mary was on there with a fortune of around £30 million

Man if only i could sing!!!!

According to Peter Freestone and Jim Hutton, Freddie was a big spender but i suppose when you are earning so much from royalties you will eventually earn back whatever you spend and FM must of invested quite a lot as well

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Posted: 29 Dec 10, 02:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Also another thing

when queen songs are played on the radio and on tv ads do they (the band) get a flat fee or does it depend on how many times the song(s) are used?

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Posted: 29 Dec 10, 04:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I know in the case of TV Ads, it depends on if it's local, national, continental or internationally broadcasted. And indeed, the time the ad is on tv.

I'm not sure about the time slot, I know certain timeslots cost more money to buy. But I don't know if the royalty fee changes with it.


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