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Posted: 17 Jan 11, 12:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

So i'll just make this plain and simple.  What do we know about these concerts? Any information about the songs Freddie supposedly wrote?

Green- If i'm not mistaken, their was 10 mins of this tape. We've accumluated about 6 or so mins. The second version [or the third] we don't know if Freddie's singing another Wreckage song or an alternative verse of Green.
Without you- possibly a cover song.
Bag-A-blues: Sounds like a possible 12 bar number. I think Freddie wrote it.
Cancer on my mind
Vagabond Outcast-We can hear this [though it's very poor condition] on the sink, Liverpool tape. All I can really translate, is something about near and then far away. It seems like another of Freddie's obscure songs.
F.E.W.A: I believe this was an acronym for "Feelings washed away."
One more train
Boogie
Universal Theme: I heard somewhere that it was an accoustic instrumental.
Lover- The foundation of Liar.

These are all simply assumptions, so don't quote me on these. If anyone has any disputes or more information to add, the please feel free to reply.

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Posted: 18 Jan 11, 02:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

> Lover- The foundation of Liar.

Not really - it's one of those many urban myths. As far as it's been documented, Fred recycled ONE riff from 'Lover' and ONE line ('lover you never believe me', IIRC). The remaining 99% of the song may well be absolutely different.

Should we consider Bicycle Race an early version of Fat Bottomed Girls because they share a line? Bo Rhap and Love of My Life because they share a piano bar (i.e. measure)? Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon and Good Old-Fashioned Lover Boy because they've got 'there he goes again' near the end?


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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Posted: 23 Jan 11, 22:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well sebastian, do you know anything [other than what's been posted on the web] more about these pre-queen songs?
Unless a recording is makes it way to someone who's willing to share it [if it exists at all].

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Posted: 23 Jan 11, 22:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I know Lover and Liar are two completely different songs. Except i've read somewhere that lover went something like "Lover why don't you believe me."

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Posted: 24 Jan 11, 01:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sebastian wrote:

"Should we consider Bicycle Race an early version of Fat Bottomed Girls because they share a line? Bo Rhap and Love of My Life because they share a piano bar (i.e. measure)?"

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Those are pretty bad comparisons.  You're using tracks that appeared on the same record, while Lover and Liar are (at least) two years apart and were from two completely creative periods of Freddie's life - and two different bands.

There is a certain element of interest in pre-Queen things because relatively little is known, so even if you were comparing tracks that were written two years apart in Queen's history it still wouldn't really be worthy of comparison to the discussion at hand.


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