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Posted: 29 Jan 11, 17:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Is there any program where you can isolate the instruments, or vocals in any song? I've been so anxious to hear the complexities of Queen II stripped down. So if anyone can help me out here, it would greatly be appreciated.

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Posted: 30 Jan 11, 10:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

honestly? NO.

with only a standard stereo version of the cd - there is little you can do.  Best you can hope for is using somehting  like adobe audition or audacity to try and create instrumental tracks. I suppose - in theory at least - if you can make good instrumentals then you may be able to make basic acapellas. But with no 5:1 version or multis to play with, you can do nothing with queen II - which is a shame.

personally, my guess is nothing will ever be done with queen II by QPL for two reasons:
1. there's no real commercial profit to be made form doing any special releases of it - it really is a "fans only" album these days.
2. the album is mostly freddie compositions and Brian has no interest (monetary or otherwise) in getting more non-Brian May written product out there.

which is a shame - as it's far and away my favourite queen album


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Posted: 30 Jan 11, 11:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Queen II is actually a much bigger loss than Brenski is making out and I'm still gutted over this as it's my favorite Queen album as well.

Brian went on record back in 2005 (?) by saying that they were planning on doing Queen II as the next DVD Audio (by DTS Entertainment I expect), but then Mike Stone died and it got shelved as they were planning to ask Mike to either sit in on the sessions or do the mixing himself :(
Instead we got the dreadful NATO 30th Anniversary edition which is nowhere near as good as the original DTS-E version.

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Posted: 30 Jan 11, 12:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi
If I remember correctly, there used to be a program called Orchestrator Plus which could seperate tracks from a midi file.
Unfortunately this meant that vocal lines couldn't be isolated, but instrumental lines could. I don't know if the more recent versions of Orchestrator Plus can do this but a few years ago I isolated the instrumental tracks on Bohemian Rhapsody using a version of Orchestrator Plus from the 90s. However this was on an old computer and I don't know if it will work with a more recent version of the program on a newer computer.
Hope this helps.

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Posted: 31 Jan 11, 12:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

There is the 'out of phase' stereo technique which can remove tracks equally shared down the centre channel. What this means is that if there is an instrument that is equally shared 50/50 between the left and right speaker it can be removed. Unfortunately this is nearly always the bass, drums and vocal, there is no way of doing the opposite. A perfect example of this is Long Away where the lead vocal is completely removed leaving an almost perfect instrumental version (you will need some sort of sub woofer for the bass though).

As far as Queen II is concerned listening to the left speaker seperately from the right speaker (and vice versa) can be a revelation in itself.

The person who invents software that can remove individual tracks from mixed down/published music will become very rich very quickly. I for one would pay 1000 pounds for it right now.

The stuff that is appearing on the net allowing track isolation are from game rips (apart from the 4 songs that have been leaked in as full multitrack masters)

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Posted: 31 Jan 11, 16:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

yes, i agree. as i said above
you can - with adobe or audacity make reasonable instrumentals...and then in theory once you have an instrumental you can make an acapella...but they'rre not great...not unless you start with a perfect instrumental (and not one software made)
the centre channel extraction works to an extent....

it'll never be released on 5:1 as Brian couldnt make any money form it

one possible chance - was this album ever released in quad in the 70s?


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