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Posted: 25 Feb 11, 17:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi,

Been a long, long time since I posted but here's a good one.

Over a year ago, 2 yrs. ago, Christmas 2009, I received as a present a refrigerator magnet of a poster from Queens 1974 tour here in the USA and it shows as follows.

QUEEN
(Queen II cover with no words like QUEEN or II")
Regis College, Denver, Colorado
April 16, 1974
***Special Guest***
Mott The Hoople
First U. S. Tour / First Performance
Tickets $7.50 at campus bookstore


I don't have a scanner currently, so the description is all I can provide.

I ask, does anyone know the setlist or where I can find it and are there any recordings of either Queen or Mott The Hoople from that show?

Just wondering,

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Posted: 25 Feb 11, 19:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have a reproduction of that poster, purple and black text on a white background with the Queen II cover image. It's approximately 13" by 19" (I'm eyeballing the dimensions from across the room right now). It's hanging in my living room and was a gift from my sister. I've seen it and dozens of other artist's and movie posters of the same dimensions at Sunrise Records around Ontario. A friend of mine has two similar posters for Elvis movie posters at his condo. I assume one company is issuing these reproductions and that there was an original (possibly larger) poster created for the Regis College concert in Denver, Colorado.

For the record, this concert was Queen's first North American appearance and it was on this tour that Brian fell ill with Hepatitis (from a dirty inoculation needle).

I don't have a recording of this concert, but I have "Shitkickers" bootleg on vinyl from The Rainbow Theatre, March 31st, 1974, just a couple weeks before.

The tracklisting for the Shitkickers LP I have, which is an incomplete setlist, has:

01) Procession
02) Father To Son
03) Orge Battle
04) Son And Daughter (featuring the guitar solo)
05) Keep Yourself Alive
06) The Seven Seas Of Rhye
07) Modern Times Rock And Roll
08) Liar

The band also likely played "White Queen," "Doing All Right," and the "Rock And Roll Medley," but I don't know if they played all or some of these in the US. There are others here WAY more knowledgeable on Queen concerts than me.

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Posted: 25 Feb 11, 19:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Here is the full "Sheetkeeckers" bootleg on YouTube. Enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNTMeBq9Mfs

Here is the poster, now leaning against my wall (I had to move it to get a good shot).

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Posted: 26 Feb 11, 12:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Indeed, the picture is likely a reprint.  There is no known recording of the show.  The earliest known US recording is from New Orleans, April 21.


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Posted: 26 Feb 11, 13:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

We have the same poster.  Bought it for fun only, because it's not an authentic duplicate, as Mott was the headliner.


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Posted: 26 Feb 11, 15:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Given that this company is printing dozens of reprints of authentic music and movie posters (I've thumbed through them in the store), why would they go to the trouble of reprinting a fake poster. I'm sure if they wanted to, they could find an authentic Queen tour poster to issue.

Yeah, it could be fake, but I rather think it was lesser run poster, maybe made by Queen to kind of beef up their promotion. I've worked plenty of festivals and club gigs and followed my friends' bands around and lots of bands do that, printing their own posters, or arranging with the organizers and promoters to have some of their own specialized posters, no matter who was actually headlining. I've even seen it contracts, a limited amount of posters highlighting each of the support bands, because some bands have their own followers who don't care about the headliner. Did Queen have any kind of following in the US in 1974? I don't know. Their three singles didn't chart, but that doesn't mean their two albums didn't have some fans. And even if it was pure bravado, that's par for the course with Queen's early days: "We don't have a fanbase here yet? Well, let's make people think we do and maybe sell some extra tickets!"

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Posted: 26 Feb 11, 16:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've seen several of them in Paris.

There is also a poster of the three shows in New York which is exactly the same format as the Denver one:
http://www.allposters.com/IMAGES/POP/WB8304.jpg

There are some colors on the photo of the link but mine is white and not multicolor.

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Posted: 26 Feb 11, 16:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yup, I have that one too. It's larger than the Denver one I own.

I've seen others online with the pink-yellow-green backing, for different bands. Here's a 1974 Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young poster:

http://www.rollingpaperwarehouse.com/Crosby-Stills-Nash-and-Young-Concert-Poster-1974_p_733.html

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Posted: 26 Feb 11, 21:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

As to the poster:  the picture is not the QII cover, but the same as the one used for the UK tour (Roger and John being 'flipped').  We bought the poster at a record show from a reputable dealer (never saw it until around '03 or '04). This does not mean it is an authentic copy.  The same holds for the 'Queen Tour 75' tee shirts I've seen at North American conventions.  Same design, no doubt purchased from a 'reputable' seller.  Doesn't mean they are authentic reproductions.  Same with fancy printed vinyl and CD boots.

I understand the bit about bands and fans of bands making their own promo handbills.  As for this Denver gig, I would think it would list 'so and so presents'.......at the 'Regis College Field House'.  Also, think about this for a second:  wouldn't you list 'Tuesday, April 16th', and not 'April 16, 1974', for the show date?

I would love to see an authentic ad for this show.  Most likely, it would resemble the ones on queenconcerts.com.   If I lived in Colorado, I'd go to the state library in Boulder and check The Denver Post microfilms.   I did this in Michigan and Pennsylvania for Queen ads/reviews for the concerts I went to. 

I wouldn't bet a million dollars that I'm right.  Anything is possible.  I would, however, bet a pint or two.

btw, thanks for posting the Sheetkickers link.  I have the disk.  My wife has that bootleg vinyl.  Great cover, eh!!!!


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Posted: 26 Feb 11, 22:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah, the SK cover is stellar! I especially like the self-defense visual aids on the top portion. Pure class!

It's a quality recording, so I ain't complaining

The LP itself is in a plain white sleeve (probably not the original, I imagine it was replaced by the record store when I got it), and the "cover" is a single sheet insert, both in a clear plastic record sleeve. On the vinyl itself, the labels are yellow and say only "Side One" and "Side Two." Gotta love brevity!

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Posted: 01 Apr 11, 23:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I was at that concert at Regis College Gymnasium in Denver, Colorado.  My recollection is that Mott The Hoople was the headliner and David Bowie played with them.  It had been a year and half or so since release of Mott's album "All the Young Dudes" which David Bowie produced.  The show was reported to be the first ever appearance by Queen in the United States..

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Posted: 02 Apr 11, 01:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Indeed it was !

I've talked to thousands of people who saw Queen concerts, but nobody who saw their first US concert, until now.  Lucky you..

Do you remember much about Queen's set?  Did the setlist look something like this?

Procession, Father To Son, Ogre Battle, Son And Daughter, Great King Rat, Liar, Keep Yourself Alive, Modern Times Rock 'n' Roll, Big Spender, Bama Lama Bama Loo

After all these years, I wouldn't blame you if you didn't really remember... I can barely remember the details of shows I saw last year !


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Posted: 28 May 13, 00:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Just happened upon this old thread while watching the 1981 Montreal concert on Palladia. I was at the Regis College show in '74 and can confirm that Mott the Hoople was the headliner. What an unbelievable surprise to be exposed to Queen as the opener! Completely overshadowed Mott. A great rock show memory etched in my mind. I'd love to find an original poster or ticket, but doubt they exist. I seriously doubt the repro poster currently being sold is accurate, but at least it keeps a truly historic show alive to some degree. Rock on.

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Posted: 28 May 13, 00:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

dlrocks wrote:

Completely overshadowed Mott.


A tall order. Mott had a hit and Queen was nothing. Just putting the building blocks in place.

Cool that you saw the gig.


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Posted: 02 Jun 13, 03:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm not so sure Bowie would've appeared with Mott that late on? He did announce them and sing Dudes at Philadelphia in '72 which is available on CD (and a clip is featured in the Mott doc). Would be fascinating if Diamond Dogs Bowie had joined them on stage.

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Posted: 02 Jun 13, 12:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Decades pass and memories get hazy.

Indeed, it's unlikely that Bowie would've joined Mott in 74..


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