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Posted: 06 Mar 11, 13:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What's up with the Roger solo tracks? Or were they initially meant as Queen songs? (referring to No Violins f.e.)


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Posted: 06 Mar 11, 14:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What's your basis for saying "there must be a full version of new York, New York"?

A snippet was needed for Highlander, so they made a snippet.

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Posted: 07 Mar 11, 10:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

NoTW bonuses
1. Feelings, Feelings
2. I Wanna Testify
3. Turn on the TV
4. Sheer Heart Attack (1974 demo)
5. We Will Rock You (Acapella) - true version, which was documented. Not made up of extracts from the Rick Rubin remix

There will be NO solo tracks, I can guarantee that so defintely no Testify/TV and I've never heard of any Queen version of said tracks

The other 3 will most likely either not be released or saved for a deeper archival project after all the reissues are out there.  You're looking most likely at BBC and live tracks here.

Jazz bonuses
1. No Violins
2. Coming Soon (early take)
3. Let Me Entertain You (w/We are the Champions singalong) - NB: This version premiered at a 2007 fan convention
4. My Country I & II (single edit)
5. We Will Rock You (Fast, Live Killers)

Again no solo tracks so no Violins or Country.  2&3 will be future archival - most likely some live tracks/edits/backing tracks

The Game bonuses
1. Sandbox
2. Beautiful Day (1980 demo) - NB: Not the MiH track which used a base of this for framework
3. A Human Body
4. Play the Game (alternate take w/Andy Gibb on co-lead vocal) - if it exists. At the moment its status is just rumoured
5. The Hero (soundtrack version) - despite the name, this only appears over the Flash Gordon movie credits

#3 is likely - #4 is questionable, no reason #5 as Flash will have bonus tracks - they all will supposedly whether it makes sense or not...#1 will be on a deeper archival set.  #2 will be future archive as well and if it was on a reissue would be on the MIH reissue I would think but maybe not.  Most likely there will be remixes, live tracks here.

Hot Space bonuses
1. Feel Like
2. Soul Brother
3. Cool Cat (w/David Bowie)
4. Las Palabras De Amor (Demo)
5. Staying Power (27-1-82 demo)

#1 #4 and #5 will be deepar archival if at all.  #3 will never be released I think - if David didn't want it released back then, why would he want it released now?   Most likely this will be a few live, and maybe the 12" mixes.  #2 is also likely. 

The Works bonuses
1. It's A Hard Life (Freddie's vocal slave)
2. Let Me In Your Heart Again (Queen version)
3. Another Little Piece of My Heart (2-9-84 demo of Let Me Live) 
4. Victory (Queen version, not the Summer '83 take Freddie did with Michael Jackson)
5. Man Made Paradise (Queen version)

All 5 of these would be in a deeper archival set - more likely I Go Crazy, 12" and  some live tracks/backing tracks, etc.

AKOM bonuses
1. New York, New York (full version) - QP deny this track's existence, but it's likely the band did it judging by Highlander
2. Love Makin' Love (Queen version)
3. Heaven for Everyone (1986 demo) - Crystal Taylor said this was recorded, but we can't be sure
4. One Year of Love (early piano version)
5. Butterfly (in Magic Years you can hear Brian working on this)

1 - Brian himself denied it saying they only recorded that snippet and I believe it because they probably recorded specifically for the scene like they did for Flash Gordon.  2-5 might be in a deeper archival set. 

Miracle bonuses
1. Sleepy Blues
2. I Guess We're Falling Out
3. A New Life is Born
4. TMLWKY (Freddie/Brian vocal guide)
5. Hijack My Heart (3:27 demo)

#1 is Brian solo so defnitely not.  2-5 will be in a deeper set - most likley getting b-sides and 12" mixes

Innuendo bonuses
1. Lost Opportunity
2. Robbery
3. Self-Made Man
4. Face It Alone (trimmed down version which brings together the best bits from the 10-minute demo)
5. Freedom Train (Queen version) - a 45-second snippet has been leaked which shows the second verse and half of the second chorus)

Most likley #1, 2,4-5 would be on a deeper set.  #4 comes from the Miracle Sessions and would be on a deeper set.  And that snippet was proved to be a fake IIRC.  (I can't check the YouTube from work)
We'll most likely get The I Can't Live With You re-take and some backing tracks.

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Posted: 07 Mar 11, 12:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What's this I'm reading about Let Me Entertain You with We Are The Champions singalong?
Could somebody please elaborate?

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Posted: 07 Mar 11, 14:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wiley wrote:

What's this I'm reading about Let Me Entertain You with We Are The Champions singalong?
Could somebody please elaborate?

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There's a convention recording of a longer version of Let Me Entertain You.  After the fade-out, everyone kept singing, and it eventually ended with a bit of Champions.  I think the recording has been shared here..


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Posted: 07 Mar 11, 23:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hmmm... don't see this happening. If half the stuff you say is probable - then your theory is flawed. Hangman, Funny How Love Is (Demo), Liar (edit), any other demo from 1974-1976 - pretty sure Queen didn't write all those classics in one take. Even a Boh-Rhap demo when the song was still in its early form - Freddie hitting the piano or alternate takes of the opera chrorus and Brian trying different sounds or solos - this stuff HAS to exist - and even the most flawed Queen demo - Freddie singing out of tune for a couple of bars - anything - would be heavily more appealing (even on repeated listens) than The High Def Mix of Teo Toriatte or the A-capella version of the Boh-rhap operatic bit.

I go back to the Beatles anyhology every now and then. My favorite track - besides the raw version of The End is the demo of And Your Bird Can Sing - listening to them laugh while recording the track makes it an interesting listen every time. I'm sure Queen has plenty of stuff like that. Hearing them battle it out over who's idea is better. This stuff can't be that personal after so many years!

How long will we have to wait?

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Posted: 08 Mar 11, 14:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I fucking hate all this probable bullshit. It's certainly not a topic for the "serious" discussion section. You might as well be talking about cheese for all I care.


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Posted: 08 Mar 11, 17:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Penetration_Guru wrote: What's your basis for saying "there must be a full version of new York, New York"?

A snippet was needed for Highlander, so they made a snippet.

I don't think they even "made" the snippet. Remember that they were doing all kinds of silly stuff in the studio during the AKOM sessions (fried chicken, anyone?). It's possible (and indeed more likely) that "New York, New York" was an ad-lib from Freddie during the recording of what would later become "Don't Lose Your Head".

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Posted: 08 Mar 11, 18:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What about Headlong (Video Version) for Innuendo?

There will be more remixes, instrumentals, acapella mixes, crappy 80s 12" versions which were made just to boost sales. I hold no breath on anything awsome.

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Posted: 08 Mar 11, 19:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Some of those crappy 80s 12" versions are really good.


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Posted: 09 Mar 11, 07:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

bigV wrote: Penetration_Guru wrote: What's your basis for saying "there must be a full version of new York, New York"?

A snippet was needed for Highlander, so they made a snippet.

I don't think they even "made" the snippet. Remember that they were doing all kinds of silly stuff in the studio during the AKOM sessions (fried chicken, anyone?). It's possible (and indeed more likely) that "New York, New York" was an ad-lib from Freddie during the recording of what would later become "Don't Lose Your Head".

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ad-libs don't occur fully laden with multi-part harmonies.


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Posted: 09 Mar 11, 08:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

splicksplack wrote: bigV wrote: Penetration_Guru wrote: What's your basis for saying "there must be a full version of new York, New York"?

A snippet was needed for Highlander, so they made a snippet.

I don't think they even "made" the snippet. Remember that they were doing all kinds of silly stuff in the studio during the AKOM sessions (fried chicken, anyone?). It's possible (and indeed more likely) that "New York, New York" was an ad-lib from Freddie during the recording of what would later become "Don't Lose Your Head".

V.

ad-libs don't occur fully laden with multi-part harmonies.

Really?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqfobwLcgJY

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Posted: 09 Mar 11, 09:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Do you really think we will get demo's all of a sudden, on a 2nd remaster set?

Of course not, it's going to be the same kind of crap as the first batch.

I'll have a guess:

News of the World:

01 - We Will Rock You (Live London, 1986)
02 - We are the Champions (Instrumental)
03 - Spread your Wings (BBC session)
04 - My Melancholy Blues (Live, 1977)
05 - It's Late (BBC)


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Posted: 09 Mar 11, 11:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

FriedChicken wrote: Do you really think we will get demo's all of a sudden, on a 2nd remaster set?

Of course not, it's going to be the same kind of crap as the first batch.

I'll have a guess:

News of the World:

01 - We Will Rock You (Live London, 1986)
02 - We are the Champions (Instrumental)
03 - Spread your Wings (BBC session)
04 - My Melancholy Blues (Live, 1977)
05 - It's Late (BBC)

I agree, waste of money.  but I remember fans bitching about why the BBC version of songs were never released. Now that a lot of these versions are being released fans are still bitching.

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Posted: 10 Mar 11, 19:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Is there any mp3/flack of these two songs?:
1. Man Made Paradise (Queen version)
2. Love Makin' Love (Queen version)

Thank you!


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Posted: 11 Mar 11, 03:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

ITSM wrote: Is there any mp3/flack of these two songs?:
1. Man Made Paradise (Queen version)
2. Love Makin' Love (Queen version)

Thank you!

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I'm sure these tracks exists, though I've never ran into them. Don't expect them to be included on The Works deluxe version either!


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Posted: 11 Mar 11, 06:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

So, even though the first 5 reissues have basically nothing in terms of
rare archive material we are suddenly going to get Queen versions of
Freedom Train and Fun In Space and outtakes like Feelings, Feelings.

Er, sorry, but no way!

It will be things like the BBC version of Spread Your Wings, the edit of
It's Late, Lost Opportunity, an instrumental version of TATDOOL and the
single edit of I Want It All.

There is NO WAY ON THIS EARTH that we will get Love Makin' Love or anything like that.

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Posted: 11 Mar 11, 07:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Why the fuck would a single edit from My Country from 1981 appear as a bonustrack on a 1978 album. Tracklist will be like this:

NOTW
1) We Will Rock You (Fast BBC Version)
2) We Are The Champions (Instrumental)
3) My Melancholy Blues (Houston '77)
4) It's Late (BBC Session)
5) Spread Your Wings (BBC Session)

Jazz
1) Fat Bottomed Girls (Live, 1982)
2) Bicycle Race (Instrumental)
3) Don't Stop Me Now (Piano Version)
4) Let Me Entertain You (Live b-side from 'Save Me' single)
5) Dreamer's Ball (Live)

The Game
1) A Human Body
2) Another One Bites The Dust (Instrumental)
3) Dragon Attack (Live version, Montreal 1981)
4) Play The Game (A Capella)
5) Coming Soon (2005 Alternate Version)

Hot Space
1) Soul Brother
2) Staying Power (Live)
3) Back Chat (12" Version)
4) Under Pressure (Rah Mix)
5) Put Out The Fire (Live)