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Posted: 07 Mar 11, 13:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Went to exhibition on Sat, and thought I'd just round up what live stuff is there.

The earliest footage appears to be the November Rainbow show. The mix or this is very dry, and without overdubs, nothing like the release. I think I can confidently say that Freddie's lead vocals were heavily overdubbed on the official release!

Then there is some Japan '75 footage. This was the usual stuff we've all seen. There was some interesting stuff also labelled Japan '75 but unfortunately without sound? I'll upload this to YouTube when I get home (unless its already been done). It's what was incorrectly labelled Preston '73, but there is loads more of it.

Hammersmith '75. Not really a lot to say on that

Hyde park. Bo Rap, Ogre Battle, same mix as before with mic drop outs etc.

Earls Court. Full show, same mix as before but stereo.

Some Houston stuff scattered around, appears not to have been remixed.

There is also a short documentary on each album containing live snippets. On these, Hyde Park has been remixed and sounds wonderful, no mic drop outs on BR. Earls Court sounds as it does on the snippet of '39 on Amazon. Not sure if this has been remixed or just had the stereo mix messed around with? But again it sounded great.

Could Gary or Greg confirm if EC has had a remix?

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Posted: 07 Mar 11, 14:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The earliest footage I saw was Smile at the RAH...a longer snippet than previously, but in even worse quality - looks like it was downloaded off Youtube

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Posted: 07 Mar 11, 14:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah your right, typed that on phone so was a bit brief.

Here some of the Japan footage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cumq6sgnKWA

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Posted: 07 Mar 11, 14:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Very interesting Japan footage .. .thanks for posting.  Is this a composite of two dates?  Or did Freddie change his outfit four times during the show?


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Posted: 07 Mar 11, 14:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank you very much for posting!

How I want to know which Japanese concert is it... !


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Posted: 07 Mar 11, 15:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Amazing footage. So there IS a (more) complete version of the last Budokan show in the archives ?
The rumours were that "somewhere" the complete video recording still exists, but I have never seen any proof.
This also solves the "Preston 73" mystery, it's Japan 75 :-)

Now the main question is - how do we convince Queen Productions that we want a DVD ? :-)

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Posted: 07 Mar 11, 15:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Unfortunately, you can never convince them. They do what they want and they never listen to us, Queen fans. But maybe someone can? The footage seems to be in great quality and is great by other standards!


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Posted: 07 Mar 11, 15:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bad Seed wrote: Went to exhibition on Sat, and thought I'd just round up what live stuff is there.

The earliest footage appears to be the November Rainbow show. The mix or this is very dry, and without overdubs, nothing like the release. I think I can confidently say that Freddie's lead vocals were heavily overdubbed on the official release!

Then there is some Japan '75 footage. This was the usual stuff we've all seen. There was some interesting stuff also labelled Japan '75 but unfortunately without sound? I'll upload this to YouTube when I get home (unless its already been done). It's what was incorrectly labelled Preston '73, but there is loads more of it.

Hammersmith '75. Not really a lot to say on that

Hyde park. Bo Rap, Ogre Battle, same mix as before with mic drop outs etc.

Earls Court. Full show, same mix as before but stereo.

Some Houston stuff scattered around, appears not to have been remixed.

There is also a short documentary on each album containing live snippets. On these, Hyde Park has been remixed and sounds wonderful, no mic drop outs on BR. Earls Court sounds as it does on the snippet of '39 on Amazon. Not sure if this has been remixed or just had the stereo mix messed around with? But again it sounded great.

Could Gary or Greg confirm if EC has had a remix?
Did you record part of the rainbow show?


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Posted: 07 Mar 11, 16:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bad Seed wrote: The earliest footage appears to be the November Rainbow show. The mix or this is very dry, and without overdubs, nothing like the release. I think I can confidently say that Freddie's lead vocals were heavily overdubbed on the official release!

A rough live mix is always going to sound far worse than a properly mixed master. There's a lot of reverb on the vocals on Live At The Rainbow and no doubt plenty of compression, which is always going to make vocals sound better. I have no doubt properly mixed versions of the raw multitracks would sound great.

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Posted: 08 Mar 11, 04:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Now I'm Here from the Rainbow, which is present on the GVH1 DVD, sounds like the real thing to me. If the rest of the concert can be transformed to equal quality, you will have a top-notch live experience by Queen.


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Posted: 08 Mar 11, 09:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

No info was given as to which Japan show it was, the only information was that the laptop contained the full rainbow show, and Japan '75 footage. Like I said, the stuff I uploaded had no sound, just SHA tracks playing over the top. Maybe the audio doesn't exist?

I did record some of the Rainbow show, FOTW and the others not on the official release. Unfortunately my phone is now refusing to play the video for some reason.

Regarding vocal overdubs, I'm sure a good remix would make Freddies vocal sound a lot better, but the simple fact is that he is really struggling at this show. I always thought it was obvious that the official release was full of them, and watching the version at the exhibition has confirmed what I first though.

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Posted: 09 Mar 11, 11:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bad Seed wrote: No info was given as to which Japan show it was, the only information was that the laptop contained the full rainbow show, and Japan '75 footage. Like I said, the stuff I uploaded had no sound, just SHA tracks playing over the top. Maybe the audio doesn't exist?

I did record some of the Rainbow show, FOTW and the others not on the official release. Unfortunately my phone is now refusing to play the video for some reason.

Regarding vocal overdubs, I'm sure a good remix would make Freddies vocal sound a lot better, but the simple fact is that he is really struggling at this show. I always thought it was obvious that the official release was full of them, and watching the version at the exhibition has confirmed what I first though.

When your phone works please try and upload the Rainbow footage not on the official release...especially Seven Seas of Rhye.


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Posted: 09 Mar 11, 14:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

jamster1111 wrote:

When your phone works please try and upload the Rainbow footage not on the official release...especially Seven Seas of Rhye.
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Dont think thats gonna happen Im afraid. My phone wont play the video, says its a corrupt file.

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Posted: 09 Mar 11, 14:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's a pity! :-(


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