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Posted: 29 May 11, 14:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Just stumbled upon that idiot Justin Bieber's copy of Bohemian Rhapsody and somebody asked Brian on his website why he allowed it and apparantly anyone can copy anybody's songs as long as it not significantly changed

its just awful

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Posted: 29 May 11, 15:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

But he HAS significantly changed it.  It has gone from an absolute masterpiece to this pile of shite.  I want to cry.


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Posted: 29 May 11, 15:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

dear justin biber

ive always thought you were a cunt, right from when a friend found a picture of you at school and dared show me this monstrosity. one felt herself vomiting a pool of blood as the words "he 16" hit my ears for you look like a spoint little 6 year old shit. i have always been a strong dis-belieber, so much to the point the mention of your name brings laughter to ones ears. as you know well, (or hopefully know) your music really sucks donkey balls. it makes me laugh, your stupid childish voice, its more girly than mine yet one is a female (though one dosent act it) as you know, many people (including ones self) would love to see you dead. but as time went on one changed her mind, deatth dose not suit you for resiving shit frm haters in yur email seems much more pleasable. i forgt you as did everyone else at the end of  2010. but now you try to sing queens bohemian rhapsody, the song of rock n roll and i now hope you suffer for that via reading every single hate letter and email sent to thys email and door step, one hopes you suffer for this for the rest of  your life,

remember you little shit, no one likes you, only confused 5 to 10 year old girls

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Posted: 29 May 11, 15:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thistleboy 1980 wrote: I want to cry.

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i wanna shoot his little pussy brains out. one gets the image of family guy, louis vs president stewie in the wite house, my that was a sweet episode and would be sweeter if it were some bieber  hater on twitter, maybe bloodonbieber vs justin bieber

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Posted: 29 May 11, 15:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

He He! Passionate responses. I've kind of promised myself never to say anything negative on this forum so I'll not comment on the version although I have heard it.

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Posted: 29 May 11, 16:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

There's nothing wrong with Justin Bieber.  He is simply a marketable image - a product, like a Big Mac.

The business just churns out people like him because they know he'll make them a lot of money.  If parents taught their kids that super-fads are pointless and will have no real enduring effect on their lives, then things like Bieber wouldn't need to exist.  He's therefore just a reflection of the very people he's being marketed to.

Here's "Pop Song" by Jon Lajoie - listen and learn :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijr4rwb2WbE


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Posted: 29 May 11, 17:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sir GH just stole the words out of my mouth. :)


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Posted: 29 May 11, 18:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Just In Beaver will be forgotten about in a few years time. He is just a phase plaguing the net and airwaves

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Posted: 29 May 11, 19:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm not an expert on copyright law, but I'm certain it is correct that anyone can cover a song. "Significant changes," as I understand it, means altering lyrics. You don't need permission to cover a song if the lyrics are basically the same as originally written. You do need a Mechanical License, and do have to pay royalties to the songwriter, if you release the song.

If it's an instrumental work, or your only covering the music (ie doing an instrumental cover of a song which has lyrics), these same rules apply if you release it. 

I'm not 100% sure what the exact copyright laws are toward posting your covers on YouTube or your website free of charge. I do think a lot of artists don't care (or are even flattered) if you cover their songs as long as you're not making money on it. If you are, they'll expect their fair share of the royalties. 

Some changes that don't require permission would include reversing genders ("he" to "she") if the singer goes from male to female (or vice versa), repeating choruses or verses and re-arranging them (starting with the chorus instead of starting with a verse), and minute changes. 

It gets sticky if you start changing proper nouns (city names or a person's name, beyond the scope of simple gender reversal) or rewriting lyrics, or adding whole new lyrics. If it's an artist who has a record contract and a manager or management company, copyright lawyers are consulted to sort out the finer details. I imagine if there's any doubt or a danger of law suit, the advice will be, "Pay for the license, get permission and pay the royalties."

In Beiber's case, I'm sure his lawyers covered his butt with Queen Productions and/or Freddie's Estate long before the song saw the light of day. I haven't heard it (and don't care to), so I don't know how different it is. I do know there are some (in my opinion) dreadful covers out there. Madonna's "American Pie" comes to mind. That's the price we pay for living in a free society. For every bad cover song, there's a good (or great) cover out there. The same laws that allowed for Freddie's "The Great Pretender" also allowed for William Shatner's "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds."

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Posted: 29 May 11, 20:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sir GH wrote: There's nothing wrong with Justin Bieber.  He is simply a marketable image - a product, like a Big Mac.

The business just churns out people like him because they know he'll make them a lot of money.  If parents taught their kids that super-fads are pointless and will have no real enduring effect on their lives, then things like Bieber wouldn't need to exist.  He's therefore just a reflection of the very people he's being marketed to.

Here's "Pop Song" by Jon Lajoie - listen and learn :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijr4rwb2WbE
What's bad about him is not the type of person he is but how he is famous and does absolutely nothing. It's all about his looks and he doesn't deserve to be famous. He is stealing fame from thousands of people who have talent and deserve to be famous.


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Posted: 29 May 11, 20:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sadly, music is a business. The companies with billions of dollars invest in what will provide the biggest financial return. 

In a perfect world, all honest talent and hard work would be rewarded appropriately, as opposed to "stars" being made as if in a factory.

The consolations I take from the existence of prefabricated artists is that they tend not to last long and their audience tends to grew out of them, eventually seeking deeper and more meaningful music.

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Posted: 30 May 11, 00:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have serious doubts that this alleged Bo Rhap cover even exists.   It seems to me to be an extension of the YouTube obsession to make this kid the epitome of everything wrong with music today and by extension everything right with music in the past.  Rose coloured glasses to be sure.  Teen idols have been around for at least 60 years and in that sense Bieber is nothing new.  In his kid teen idol way he's even paid some dues.  He used to busk in a small Southern Ontario town and wrote some songs in the same period.  He has some charisma and can hold a tune and he gives tweens something to listen to that parents can be comfortable with before they're thrust into the worlds of hypersexualized artists like Gaga and Rihanna etc.  He's not the end of the world any more than David Cassidy or Leif Garret was the end of the world back in the 1970's.  Incredible, enduring music was created in countless parallel tracks in that decade alongside the teen idol fluff. Is that happening now?  It certainly doesn't feel like it to the same degree.  Really, I think what's wrong is what's going on outside of Justin Bieber, and not Bieber himself,  who is really just holding the latest incarnation of a position that's always been there.

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Posted: 30 May 11, 03:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I just had a listen to some of it, didnt really want to and it really hurt my ears to listen to such a great song being covered so badly like that

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Posted: 30 May 11, 17:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Actually, it's not that bad. I bet if someone didn't tell you it was Justin Bieber you would think it was rather good. But people, how do we even know this is Justin Bieber? It could just be a person covering this song trying to sound like him.


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Posted: 01 Jun 11, 00:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

jamster1111 wrote:

What's bad about him is not the type of person he is but how he is famous and does absolutely nothing.

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Plenty of people are rich or successful without having done much.

It's not like he's a bad person or anything.  It's the record company executive assholes that we should be complaining about, not a teenager caught in the middle of it.


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Posted: 01 Jun 11, 14:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"...i'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me..."

yeah. right.
*lol*


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Posted: 01 Jun 11, 17:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

princetom wrote: "...i'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me..."

yeah. right.
*lol*

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i do admit you do nearly piss yourself at justin bieber saying "im just a poor boy" POOR? BOLLOCKS!  1. hes got shit loads of money for having his face on all different shit 2. he has loads of chicks in love with him (though many of them are 6 year olds, about his age)

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Posted: 01 Jun 11, 18:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's not actually Justin Bieber btw.

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Posted: 01 Jun 11, 18:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

^ Exactly.  Should have been obvious.