Forums > Queen - General Discussion > Results: SL Poll

forum rss feed
Author

queenUSA user not visiting Queenzone.com
...... as it began
queenUSA
Bohemian: 596 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 13 Jul 11, 07:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Lately, Sweet Lady has taken on a real roasting in two QZ threads:
"7 Best/ 7 Worst Queen Songs" and "Songs that Mar an Otherwise Perfect Album."
Has it been too harshly judged?

I, for one, think it has some appeal.  I certainly don't skip it, nor am I repulsed by it.

Is Sweet Lady alright by you?


I'll be right behind you, right until the ends of the Earth
Djdownsy user not visiting Queenzone.com
Mama Please
Djdownsy
Bohemian: 469 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 13 Jul 11, 08:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I like Sweet Lady, its not a favourite, nor is it the best song of all time, but it has some charm and appeal.
I like the 3/4 beat, the riff, practically everything about it.
The lyrics leave a little to be desired, I mean, they're no 'Save Me', but at the same time Brian has written worse,such as Flash(Im not saying I hate Flash, Im just saying Sweet Lady is a better song).

But yeah, certainly doesn't deserve the lambasting it's getting. In the ANATO sense, I think that album needs the song, no way does it mar the album.


Tá suil agam go bhuil tú go maith!



Arsebiscuits!!!!!
rhyeking user not visiting Queenzone.com
rhyeking
Royalty: 1566 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 13 Jul 11, 08:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I used to not care much for it, though never skipped it or "hated" it.

One afternoon I heard it on the radio, when the local rock station had an hour-long show playing back-to-back album tracks (rather than hits) by different artists. They played this and "Liar". Maybe because I wasn't expecting it, or was just in exactly the right mood, but when "Sweet Lady" came on, it was like running into an old friend. It was familiar, the same song, but suddenly I appreciated all those things I'd once ignored.

It's a reliable, solid rock song in the midst of an album full of dramatic ups and downs, quirks, gimmicks and production gags. In many ways, it's the anchor "Opera" needs, the normal song, the one that doesn't take itself seriously among songs that experiment with different styles. It does have a trick or two up its sleeve, though, with its odd time signature, that plays with the ear.

It's an underrated song and definitely worthy of inclusion on the album.

brENsKi user not visiting Queenzone.com
How shall we f**k off, Oh Lord
brENsKi
Deity: 8088 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 13 Jul 11, 10:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i hate it. firstly because of the like some kinda cheese" line...so sh*tty

secondly, because  the guitar parts and the melody are really derivative (note i didn't say plagiarism, but i meant it)
of many early seventies rock/pop songs


go deo na hÉireann
dysan user not visiting Queenzone.com
dysan
Royalty: 1589 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 13 Jul 11, 10:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I definitely don't like it, but like almost everyone has said, I rarely skip it. It's a very unusual song though and holds dear memories for me.

qrock user not visiting Queenzone.com

Bohemian: 313 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 13 Jul 11, 11:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sweet Lady is one of the best songs on A Night at the Opera. The riff is great, drums are great and vocals are powerful. The lyrics does not lower my rating on the song as musically I think it's great.

Sheer Brass Neck user not visiting Queenzone.com

Bohemian: 719 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 13 Jul 11, 11:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"i hate it. firstly because of the like some kinda cheese" line...so sh*tty."

You're not the first to say that Brenski, but on the whole, that line would be better than virtually every line of AKOM, most of the Miracle, and great bits of MIH (Let me Live is cornball schmaltz supreme) so I don't understand why people give this line more stick than any other in the catalogue.

"Secondly, because  the guitar parts and the melody are really derivative (note i didn't say plagiarism, but i meant it)
of many early seventies rock/pop songs."

If you mean the main riff, sure, lots of bands used that power chord combination in the 70s.  But the end!  That is absolutely fantastic guitar writing and arranging, derivative of no one but Brian May.  There are tons of things going on at the end of Sweet Lady from a guitar POV which make it stand out compared to other pieces of that era, not bring it closer.

paulosham user not visiting Queenzone.com
Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon
paulosham
Bohemian: 659 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 13 Jul 11, 12:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I love Sweet Lady, it's a great song.


Don't shun it!
catqueen user not visiting Queenzone.com
:)

Royalty: 1758 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 13 Jul 11, 13:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

rhyeking wrote:

when "Sweet Lady" came on, it was like running into an old friend.

Exactly!  I really like Sweet Lady, although if i'm not in the right mood i sometimes skip it, but usually i really like it.  The cheese line always sticks in my head though -- i still don't know if i think its funny and cute or just wrong!

mike hunt user not visiting Queenzone.com

Deity: 2770 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 13 Jul 11, 13:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

My least favorite on A night At The Opera,  but i don't hate it,  a pretty decent rocker. better than most of brians rocker's of the 80's, like put out the fire and tear it up.  Queen were never known for their lryics, so why judge this song for one line?...even some of their best songs have some silly lryics mixed in.

Your Fairy King user not visiting Queenzone.com
Your Fairy King
Bohemian: 188 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 13 Jul 11, 17:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

When I bought ANATO in 1975 I didn't like SL, but over the years it has grown on me. I can't say it is one of my favorite tracks because I love every song on ANATO. But SL is one of my favorite tracks....it's the waltz time and that incredible ride-out. The live versions I've heard are pretty kick-ass as well.

Russian Headlong user not visiting Queenzone.com

Bohemian: 496 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 13 Jul 11, 18:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

underated song, lyrics are a bit crap but good tune. love the riff.


"Give it to me one more time!"
Thistleboy1980 user not visiting Queenzone.com
You wanna ring the bell?
Thistleboy1980
Deity: 3057 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 13 Jul 11, 19:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Not my favourite, but again it never seems to get skipped....unlike Seaside Rendezvous and Prophet's Song lol


It ain't about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can get hit: how much you can take and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done!
Robbieboy user not visiting Queenzone.com

Bohemian: 107 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 14 Jul 11, 00:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I really like SL, and I could never figure out just why so many fans either dislike it or are indifferent to it.
Ok, so some dodgy lyrics, but you can find plenty of those in the Queen canon. I love the tricky time signature in the chorus, and I love the big "believe and we've got everything we need..."  towards the end.  And the end, with Brian and Roger 'duelling' is just spectacular.

As another poster said it is much better than some of the dross in Queen's eighties catalogue, and probably much better than most of AKOM, The Miracle etc. In my mind it is superior to most of Brian's eighties/ nineties 'rockers' such as Put Out The Fire, Tear It Up, The Hitman et al.

ludwigs user not visiting Queenzone.com
ludwigs
Bohemian: 459 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 14 Jul 11, 05:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I totally agree with those that give it the positive nod. I've never been one to sit and ponder over the lyrics of a song. I just accept them as part of it.
Maybe those that don't like the song know something I don't?

The guitar has such a great tone and after listening to the 5.1's you can really appreciate how loud he ran the amps. AC's (in 'normal' channel) full, all tones down and the treble-booster. Brilliant!!
Deacys bass lines are sensational , especially at the outro. The drumming is a favourite of mine to play as it has an almost 'laid-back' simplistic style to it (although it does sound very hard to play and impressive....the coda section is brilliant, the way he doubles up the 'feel' adding the double snare hits...I recall some people asking if this used a double-bass pedal. Definately not.
The solo, although not 100 mph, is one of my favourite ones and I really feel that it is so highly under-rated. It is a classic piece of playing that he never really replicated during the live performances. So much more punch than loads of the 'rockier' more modern songs. Hitman/Headlong et al.

thomasquinn 32989 user not visiting Queenzone.com
thomasquinn 32989
Deity: 6257 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 14 Jul 11, 07:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I can't stand it. It ruins ANATO for me. The reasons?

- as already mentioned: the lyrics. They are uninspired, nonsensical (which is not in itself a bad thing) and unfitting in the context of the album
- the harmonies are dull, the melody is predictable and, much worse, the lyrics and the music clash. So much so that it appears almost as if the lyrics are from a different song.
- the production sounds sloppy to me. The instruments seem thrown together rather than arranged, and I get the distinct impression that the whole think was made with the least amount of effort.


Not Plutus but Apollo rules Parnassus

Pandy Legend user not visiting Queenzone.com
Pandy Legend
Champion: 79 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 14 Jul 11, 07:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

ThomasQuinn wrote: - the harmonies are dull, the melody is predictable and, much worse, the lyrics and the music clash. So much so that it appears almost as if the lyrics are from a different song.
I've been trying to get my head around what is wrong with the song, as it is a song that has kind of annoyed me for years, but I think ThomasQuinn has hit the nail on the head. If I heard an instrumental version, I'd love it and I'd probably feel the same about an a capella version too, but put the music and the lyrics together and it just doesn't work.

IMO as a songwriter, and indeed a singer, Brian is not great - there are not many of his compositions I really like compared to  F, J and R's, though I don't understand why people seem to dislike Tear It Up, I think it's one of his few really good tracks, alongside FBG, KYA, IL and TMLWKY.

The tracks from the 70s, which he insisted on singing himself (mistake) rarely enter my playlist with the possible exception of '39 but even that would have been better with Freddie on vocals.


;-P
Tommilaiho user not visiting Queenzone.com

Rocker: 21 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 14 Jul 11, 11:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I like Sweet Lady. I just think that it´s in a wrong album

mooghead user not visiting Queenzone.com
mooghead
Deity: 3667 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 14 Jul 11, 12:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wheres the poll?

Rotwang user not visiting Queenzone.com

Bohemian: 296 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 14 Jul 11, 13:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

My dislike of this song has to do with the chorus. The main riff, verses, etc. are good and rockin' but the chorus does not fit the song at all. Nothing will convince me that it is a good chorus because it sounds like a jumbled mess, as much as I hate to say it. Because of that, it's a filler song on an otherwise genius album.


"You Can Be Anything You Want To Be"