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Posted: 21 Jul 11, 06:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I was watching Queen Rock Montreal with audio commentary of Brian and Roger. 
Before Keep yourself alive starts, they play a small piece that according to Brian and Roger was at sometime recorded in the studio as a track called  Sexshow. You can also hear Freddie say Sexshow right before KYA starts. Does a recording of this song exist somewhere?


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Posted: 21 Jul 11, 09:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

...ended as Backchat !


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Posted: 21 Jul 11, 09:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, it probably still exists in the vault, dating from the same sessions that gave us "Feel Like," "Under Pressure," "Cool Cat" and "Soul Brother." It's one of those tracks that gets discussed on these threads covering unreleased stuff and sadly, we don't know much more about it than what Brian and Roger talk about on that commentary. However, what we do know and have heard of the song is more substantial than some reported outtakes, where all we get is a song title ("Friends In Pain," for example, which I'm not entirely convinced ever existed) or claims that an existing song dates from an earlier session ("Heaven For Everyone" being from the Magic sessions).

It would have been nice to hear this track on the Hot Space Bonus EP. Oh well.

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Posted: 21 Jul 11, 10:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Some of it reminds me of "You Don't Fool Me".


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Posted: 21 Jul 11, 10:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I honesly think Brian just made that up on the spot. Does anyone honestly hear Freddie say 'sex show'? The word 'sex' is maybe in there, but he certainly does not say 'sex show' to my ears.

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Posted: 21 Jul 11, 11:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

He clearly says "Sex Show!" at the end, just as they transition into KYA.

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Posted: 21 Jul 11, 11:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I honesly think Brian just made that up on the spot. Does anyone honestly hear Freddie say 'sex show'? The word 'sex' is maybe in there, but he certainly does not say 'sex show' to my ears.
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Before hearing the commentary, I assumed he said a lower little bit lower bah be bah bah bah you're sexual, but after hearing the commentary SEX SHOW also fits. Seeing as this turned into back chat I think its safe to assume “sex show” is the real title the band gave the jam whilst working on it.

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Posted: 21 Jul 11, 11:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I haven't listened to that commentary lately, but don't recall it being said that "Sex Show" became "Back Chat." If I remember correctly, Brian says "Sex Show" was a Freddie-penned track. We know "Back Chat" was a John song, so forgive me for wondering if we're just assuming it transformed in BC because of the funky similarities and the period they both were written in. Or do we have a definite confirmation on this?

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Posted: 21 Jul 11, 11:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

He sang My bad bad bad bad sex show


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Posted: 21 Jul 11, 12:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

so forgive me for wondering if we're just assuming it transformed in BC because of the funky similarities and the period they both were written in. Or do we have a definite confirmation on this?
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The opening sounds just like back chat, and by that i mean you can sing the lyrics from back chat to it.

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Posted: 21 Jul 11, 13:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The Mobile Vision version translates it as 'a fast fast fast faster John' :D


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Posted: 21 Jul 11, 17:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Freddie doesn't sing "Sex show" there, he sings "Sex on the beach".

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Posted: 21 Jul 11, 22:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

A reliable source (Penetration Guru) said that he recalled reading a magazine interview with Roger, in which Taylor claimed that 'Heaven For Everyone' was originally written for Joan Armatrading; upon her rejection of the song, Roger apparently called her a bitch! Since she performs incidental vocals on 'Don't Lose Your Head', this supports the notion that HFE dates to circa ~1986.

However, whether it was ever subsequently or previously intended as a Queen or Highlander related project is another kettle of fish altogether...

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Posted: 21 Jul 11, 23:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I wasn't saying HFE was not from the Magic era, I was saying that with "Sex Show" we have a sampling of the song live, a direct quote from Brian while listening to the clip and a date from that performance, from which we can reasonably infer a few extra details, such as the sessions it was likely recorded during.

Comparatively, we haven't heard a clip of HFE predating the The Cross sessions, let alone a Queen or Roger demo. I'd like to read the quote about Joan Armatrading and in the meantime I do believe the quote exists and believe Roger wrote the song around that time, though probably not intending it for Queen (by Roger's account, Freddie heard Roger's Cross version and wanted to sing it himself, which implies that Freddie hadn't heard it before 1987). Armatrading appears on Roger's "Don't Lose Your Head," so that connection is viable indeed. That's all we know and can reasonably assume.

Basically, we know more about "Sex Show" than we do about some other outtakes and demos.

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Posted: 22 Jul 11, 09:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Perhaps Queen Productions has a suprise in store for us after all the re-issues are released? An album that features completed songs including Sexshow.  Maybe those Queen + Michael Jackson tracks will also feature on it. Oh well..who am I kidding.


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Posted: 22 Jul 11, 11:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bad Seed wrote: I honesly think Brian just made that up on the spot. Does anyone honestly hear Freddie say 'sex show'? The word 'sex' is maybe in there, but he certainly does not say 'sex show' to my ears.
It does sound like 'sex show' to me (at least after hearing the commentary i could hear it lol)... I always wondered about it, because it didn't seem to really make sense in the context of the song, but i don't see why Brian would have just made it up.  I mean it would be a bit random to just make up an addition to a song...

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Posted: 22 Jul 11, 11:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

rhyeking wrote: I haven't listened to that commentary lately, but don't recall it being said that "Sex Show" became "Back Chat." If I remember correctly, Brian says "Sex Show" was a Freddie-penned track. We know "Back Chat" was a John song, so forgive me for wondering if we're just assuming it transformed in BC because of the funky similarities and the period they both were written in. Or do we have a definite confirmation on this?

Its ages since i listened to the commentary (or the Montreal dvd) but from what i remember, Brian said that the song was supposed to be called Sex Show, but it didn't in the end.  I think he said that they changed it, or that there would have been more had it been called sex show or something.

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Posted: 22 Jul 11, 14:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It sounds pretty much like he sang bad bad sexshow in Montreal to me, as suggested by another poster.  Having never bothered with the commentary, I always thought that this line sounded silly, so it makes a bit of sense now.  Just wondering where "wooly hat" (another alternate title for Backchat?) came from, then...is that just a made-up-by-a-fan title for the demo that surfaced from the HS sessions, or did it have multiple working titles?


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Posted: 22 Jul 11, 15:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Just wondering where "wooly hat" (another alternate title for Backchat?) came from, then...is that just a made-up-by-a-fan title for the demo that surfaced from the HS sessions, or did it have multiple working titles? 
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No, Greg Brooks confirmed 'Whooly Hat' was the working title name for BC at a Convention.


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Posted: 22 Jul 11, 16:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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No, Greg Brooks confirmed 'Whooly Hat' was the working title name for BC at a Convention. =============================================================================================

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