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Posted: 22 Jul 11, 11:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

So during last weekend's Breakthru convention, I'd spoken to Peter Freestone and Gary Taylor regarding, amongst other various topics, the Freddie Mercury and Michael Jackson demos. And to sum up some new bits I wasn't aware of previously that I think may be of interest to the fans and collectors here:

-Brian and Roger ARE working on the same three Freddie/MJ tracks that everyone was previously aware of by name. No other unheard collab tracks made between the two exist.

-Victory did NOT have any of the other Queen members on it to start with. It was purely a Freddie and MJ track to begin with. Only *now* with Brian and Roger working on the tracks that they have a fuller Queen connection (and also, most likely may be billed as Queen + Michael Jackson)

-Neither Queen nor even Freddie's estate were able to gain access to the demos' original multitracks (yes, you heard right) until AFTER MJ had passed away.

-Peter and Gary were unwittingly the source of the two demos that had leaked out, as at the hotel Peter used to run with Gary in his employ, they used to play some rare tapes for trusted friends of theirs. However, somewhere along the way some people proved they couldn't be fully trusted and made their own copies of the tapes.

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Posted: 22 Jul 11, 11:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

One more thing I forgot to add: Peter also played 'bass drum' on the Victory demo, using the door in Michael Jackson's bathroom! (Remember, these demos were made at MJ's home, and sometimes he would use the bathroom for vocal demos as they would give just the right amount of natural reverb owing to the tiled floors and porcelain tub)

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Posted: 22 Jul 11, 14:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Fascinating report, inu!  Interesting reading that it was PF and GT that "leaked" the tracks we've heard already.


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Posted: 22 Jul 11, 15:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

All well and fine but there's only one thing that really needs cleared up -- was Michael dressed as a zombie or a werewolf?


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Posted: 22 Jul 11, 15:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Holly2003 wrote: All well and fine but there's only one thing that really needs cleared up -- was Michael dressed as a zombie or a werewolf? =============================================================================================

LMFAO - I heard he was dressed as a ghost...


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Posted: 22 Jul 11, 15:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I heard he was dressed.

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Posted: 22 Jul 11, 17:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

GratefulFan wrote: I heard he was dressed.

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Posted: 22 Jul 11, 17:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

No no no! You've ALL got it wrong...he was dressed as Peter Pan bahahahahahaha!!!!!


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Posted: 22 Jul 11, 17:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

bambams-paradise wrote: No no no! You've ALL got it wrong...he was dressed as Peter Pan bahahahahahaha!!!!! =============================================================================================

hehehehehe


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Posted: 22 Jul 11, 20:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

And also silver salmon is NOT and I repeat NOT from the News of the World era. According to Gary, the latest year it could be from is 1973. Hopefully this will end that argument.


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Posted: 22 Jul 11, 20:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1235337/silver-salmon-thread.aspx

There's the Silver Salmon thread! There's tons of arguments going on--you'll fit in perfectly! :D


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Posted: 22 Jul 11, 21:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

For Freddies sake! Silver Salmon came from 1977!!!!!


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Posted: 22 Jul 11, 22:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

marvinp01 wrote: For Freddies sake! Silver Salmon came from 1977!!!!!

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tsk tsk, no no, it came from Made in Heaven's sessions, 1997.

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Posted: 23 Jul 11, 04:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"Neither Queen nor even Freddie's estate were able to gain access to the demos' original multitracks until AFTER MJ had passed away."

This is the first time I have wished that Michael Jackson was still alive.


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Posted: 23 Jul 11, 05:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have to ask....

was Michael black or white???


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Posted: 23 Jul 11, 06:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Great info, Richard

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Posted: 23 Jul 11, 09:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"was Michael black or white??? "

I thought it 'didn't matter'!!


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Posted: 23 Jul 11, 20:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oh no, you guys, c'mon, stop. That's ignorant ... you're being ignorant ...

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Posted: 24 Jul 11, 00:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

For a minute i thought he said "Was MJ black or shite" XD


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Posted: 24 Jul 11, 15:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Excellent thread, this is the kinda stuff I like to hear about.


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