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Posted: 28 Sep 11, 15:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I keep searching the web for a update about the Freddie Mercury Biopic and I'm finding nothing. They were supposed to start filming by now. When you look up Sacha on the IMDB site, there's no mention of him even being in it. Does anyone have any info?

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Posted: 28 Sep 11, 16:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

mark my words...this film will be shelved.

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Posted: 28 Sep 11, 16:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i was wondering too, when they starting with filming.

But maybe we have some patience and in some months we have some more news.

i hope so

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Posted: 28 Sep 11, 16:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Gr8 King Rat wrote: mark my words...this film will be shelved.

I agree.   This will not see the light of day... at least not in a theatrical release.

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Posted: 29 Sep 11, 01:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm curious why you think it'll be shelved/never released ??

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Posted: 29 Sep 11, 02:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'd hazard a guess and say that BM and RT have lost interest in this movie.


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Posted: 29 Sep 11, 03:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

From the  news reports earlier it looked like it was still in the scripting stage...I think the script is still  being worked on, which is why we don't have news yet. Besides it's a rather touchy issue they're dealing with here: it's about Freddie and his relationship with the band, and that's bound to raise SOME hackles with Brian, Roger and Deaky if it's not done a  certain way, so I would understand why the scriptwriter would take time and not say anything yet. I guess only once the script is  actually done will they get down to casting: so far it's only Sasha Baron Cohen who's been chosen for a role, the rest of the band haven't even been casted yet. I'd say we'll get news on this only much, much later.

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Posted: 29 Sep 11, 07:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The a kind of magic title seems pointless to the movie as it based up as far as the time live aid,
well before magic was even released


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Posted: 29 Sep 11, 08:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Any Way The Wind Blow sounds perfect for this one...hope they use that or something else that's equally catchy!

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Posted: 29 Sep 11, 10:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Why?

Because NO ONE (except those here on Queenzone) will be remotely interested in this.  And anybody that is still interested is wanting the later years covered. 

I'm surprised that Di Niro's people couldn't see this before committing to it.

That said, there's still a market for the Direct To Video release.  But that just means it will be Sacha Baren Cohen and a bunch of no-names, so the acting level will be severely crippled as well.

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Posted: 29 Sep 11, 11:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think they should have Mark Martell doing the singing voice overs.


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Posted: 29 Sep 11, 11:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Micrówave wrote: Why?

Because NO ONE (except those here on Queenzone) will be remotely interested in this.  And anybody that is still interested is wanting the later years covered. 
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I'm not sure that's true.  I think Freddie has become a cultural icon, and if it is a well written film with positive buzz I see no reason why it wouldn't be received like 'Ray' or 'Walk the Line'.  Even allowing for the potential for less interest on North America there are huge swaths of the rest of the would that would be keenly interested.  I understand the feeling of an incomplete story arc without including Fred's illness and that remarkable period in the history of the disease, but if you try to include too much it becomes a necessarily shallow film.  I think people are less drawn to these things for chronologies of the subject's' lives and more to learn things both unique and universal about extraordinary people.

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Posted: 29 Sep 11, 13:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Such Grumpy Guses about the movie!

Straight-to-video? Really? With this cast and crew?  Maybe an HBO Movie, but even that would be pretty cool.

They've got a great production team, and Academy Award-winning screenwriter, and an A-list actor. This is about as likely to be made as any other movie at its current stage, but everybody thinks it's been spiked because it's a couple months behind schedule?  

That's pretty ludicrous, as is playing clairvoyant and reading Roger/Brian/Beach's minds.  

The movie sounds great and interesting to me, and judging by those outside the Queen fan world, it seems likely others do, too. Didn't all of you get links from your non-Queen fan friends about the SB Coen casting?  Or was it just me?  

Anyway.  I don't know if it's a go or not anymore, but I certainly HOPE it's a go.  I'm looking forward to it!


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Posted: 29 Sep 11, 13:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

C'mon, GratefulFan....   I love him too but no matter how great he was, Freddie will never be the cultural icon we so want him to be.  Sure WE compare him to Elvis or The Beatles, but there really is no comparison.   The greatest singer in the world (possibly FM) will never reach the status of Ray Charles, or the aforementioned Elvis.

And RAY didn't do that well, so why would an obscure movie about Freddie do any better?  In fact, I can't think of ANY music-oriented biography movie that did that well.  Even though there will be people on here that will tell you Fred had more impact on the music industry than anybody, it just simply isn't true.  They put out twice as much music as Led Zeppelin, but plenty will tell you that LZ had more influence on Rock & Roll than Queen.

The only way this movie could happen is if they turned it into a comedy.

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Posted: 29 Sep 11, 13:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Micrówave, I'm afraid you're out of your element or area of expertise here.  I'll try to explain.  

Ray won an Oscar (two Oscars, actually, and many other awards). The reason it might not have gotten major-mongo worldwide grosses is, frankly, the African-Amerian lead. That's not me talking; that's just the way the business is. Nonetheless, it made 75 million dollars worldwide and is the second highest grossing music biopic (http://boxofficemojo.com/genres/chart/?id=musicbio.htm).

But the real reason one puts together this kind of movie isn't to make Transformers-type grosses.  It's to make money, yes, but also to do a good film and also to be Oscar- and other awards-bait. Look at the other top-grossing music bio-pics and you might see what I mean. These types of movies build careers and also re-direct some. It did so for Jamie Foxx, that's for sure. and there are other examples. It's also, I suspect, a movie that would do well later on cable and streaming and DVD.  All that is taken into account these days.  

Whether Queen were less or more influential than Led Zeppelin, or if Ray Charles is considered a better singer than Freddie by the world at large has nothing to do with whether it would make for a good movie, and it's sort of a red herring. If you look at the top music biopics list, you'll see Richie Valens, Frankie Lymon, and Bobby Darin, and Devid Helfgott as music biopic subjects as well.  Like them, Freddie has a compelling story, and that's what the movie, I think and hope, will center on.


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Posted: 29 Sep 11, 16:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Micrówave wrote: C'mon, GratefulFan....   I love him too but no matter how great he was, Freddie will never be the cultural icon we so want him to be.  Sure WE compare him to Elvis or The Beatles, but there really is no comparison.   The greatest singer in the world (possibly FM) will never reach the status of Ray Charles, or the aforementioned Elvis.

And RAY didn't do that well, so why would an obscure movie about Freddie do any better?  In fact, I can't think of ANY music-oriented biography movie that did that well.  Even though there will be people on here that will tell you Fred had more impact on the music industry than anybody, it just simply isn't true.  They put out twice as much music as Led Zeppelin, but plenty will tell you that LZ had more influence on Rock & Roll than Queen.

The only way this movie could happen is if they turned it into a comedy.
Ooh, that's slightly over-pessimistic I think. I always try to keep some distance to Queen, sometimes even teasing the more zealous fans, but I do think that Freddie became an icon over the last years and I think Queen is right there with the greats like the Beatles, Pink Floyd or the Stones. Their music proved very universal and enduring over the years. Also, I always thought that the film Ray did very well indeed. In fact, it was after the success of Ray and Walk the Line that the idea of Freddie biopic came up, as far as I remember. So, let's have some faith and hope there will be an update eventually.

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Posted: 29 Sep 11, 16:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Micrówave wrote: Why?

Because NO ONE (except those here on Queenzone) will be remotely interested in this.  And anybody that is still interested is wanting the later years covered. 

I'm surprised that Di Niro's people couldn't see this before committing to it.

That said, there's still a market for the Direct To Video release.  But that just means it will be Sacha Baren Cohen and a bunch of no-names, so the acting level will be severely crippled as well.
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Hey, the same was probably said about The Damned United (screenplay written by Peter Morgan).  Who would have thought that you could make a successful film about Brian Clough?  But they did and Fred is a lot more popular than Clough. 
Your point that it will be Sacha Baren [sic] Cohen and a bunch of no-names is totally unsubstantiated.

De Niro not Di Niro


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Posted: 30 Sep 11, 00:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The title ''A Kind of Magic'' would have little to do with the album. It will be describing Mercury, so it can be used eventhough it sets before the release of this album. (I wouldn't but the people invested in this might not care so much about timeline)

Sacha Baron Cohen is the driving force behind this movie, It will be mostly up to him to get this project realized. He is currently filming 'The Dictator'.
When a script for 'AKOM' is approved (i think somewhere early next year) preproduction and filming can begin.
We will be looking at a winter 2012 release, or even summer 2013.


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Posted: 30 Sep 11, 09:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Micrówave wrote: C'mon, GratefulFan....   I love him too but no matter how great he was, Freddie will never be the cultural icon we so want him to be.  Sure WE compare him to Elvis or The Beatles, but there really is no comparison.   The greatest singer in the world (possibly FM) will never reach the status of Ray Charles, or the aforementioned Elvis

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I'm genuinely not sure about that.  I agree that our particular level of fandom risks skewing our perception, but which way?  I posted a link to a Canadian decorative wall art company the other day that had a pop culture section that wasn't particularly large, but it had a Freddie. Infinitesimally small sample, I know, but I think there is more of a broad instant recognition and instant affective factor than some of us might credit.

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Posted: 30 Sep 11, 09:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The Freddie Mercury Google Doodle is proof that Freddie is popular enough for a movie to be made about him and Queen.