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Posted: 14 Jan 12, 04:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ok this track has been posted and talked about loads times on this site. But who was the orignal person who made the mix. And has Queen ever heard the mix, we have all talked about it for ages but thats as far as it goes. Think i would like this version to be in the public eye.

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Posted: 14 Jan 12, 06:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It was done by a guy who called himself Smash. And yes, Queen, or at least Brian, new about this mix.

Here is a link to his site www.mash-ups.co.uk


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Posted: 14 Jan 12, 09:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This is how he made the track(sorry i just pasted it on here)

I hadn't heard the New York
demo until it was posted up on Get Your Bootleg On - having been put
straight several times now *ahem* I now know it's a Freddie Mercury demo
from 1984. The original demo consists of vocal and piano (which sounds
kinda like a Broadway show rehearsal!) only - that's it - one verse, one
chorus, and three chords.....hmmm...not a lot really!

OK, firstly lets
get rid of
the piano! Well I tried to anyway - it does poke it's head out
every now
and then. This was done using Soundforge noise reduction. The
sequenced
synth bass is derived from Radio Ga-Ga, done primarily to give
some Queen
'familiarity' - there is a typical club off-beat bass on top to
reinforce
the bottom end. Kick drum is courtesy of Darude (cheers!) - stick a
loop
over the top and  some 909 hatz and we're off. The opening chords
are
made up of three separate pads overaid to try and get as 'lush' as
possible. We need more 'Queenness'
now - Brian May wasn't available but luckily he's left a fair few
riffs
about the place! Most of the guitars were taken from Spread Your
Wings
(what an absolutely blinding track!). The feedback  that
introduces
the guitar part in the chorus is taken from around 3'26", the
first
power chord is from Save Me - it had a really nice attack cos it
was out
on it's own. The riff that appears in the last chord of the chorus
is from
around 2'33". The echoey turnaround riff at the end of the chorus
is
taken from around 3'17". All these samples were taken from vinyl
and
not CD by the way. Phase inversion was used to remove most of the
vocals, although you can still hear a ghostly echo of freddie voice
singing the word 'maa-a-aan' (from 'just because you're a free
man'). To
get all the guitars to sound 'consistent' I put them back through a
warm
overdrive and to get a stereo spread back (the phase inversion
left them
mono) I put it through a multi chorus to give that 70's red
special 
phasing / flanging effect. The mix was automated in Cubase for
filtered
vox in the drop down with a slap back delay and panned multi-tap.
Light
limiting via Waves Ultramaximiser then mastered in T Racks.
So.......there
you have it.


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Posted: 14 Jan 12, 11:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

kevinhairsineevans wrote:
Ok this track has been posted and talked about loads times on this site. But who was the orignal person who made the mix. And has Queen ever heard the mix, we have all talked about it for ages but thats as far as it goes. Think i would like this version to be in the public eye.


that was pretty damn good and just goes to PROVE Queen could create a whole new album with Freddie's vocals. "Love Making Love" would be awesome for example. Or why not create a new Freddie album if they want "Made In Heaven" to be the last?....ah hell I just don't want to accept there may not be another studio album with Freddie. ESPECIALLY when I know there could be.

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Posted: 14 Jan 12, 12:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Unfortunately I think that any good bits of demos (that we know of) have been used except maybe I guess we're falling out and it doesn't have a verse. To make an album would require songs we've not heard yet or Queenising loads of Freddie songs, but really that wouldn't really be a Queen album to me.

Very interesting reading how the New York remix was made, I'll listen more carefully in future to hear the Spread your wings bits, didn't even suspect that has been used.

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Posted: 14 Jan 12, 17:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

drmurph wrote:
Unfortunately I think that any good bits of demos (that we know of) have been used except maybe I guess we're falling out and it doesn't have a verse. To make an album would require songs we've not heard yet or Queenising loads of Freddie songs, but really that wouldn't really be a Queen album to me.
Very interesting reading how the New York remix was made, I'll listen more carefully in future to hear the Spread your wings bits, didn't even suspect that has been used.


I wouldn't mind Brian and Roger using their vocals to fill in the gaps on those Queen demo songs with good Freddie bits and there's a few Freddie demo songs he never finished on that Freddie Box that could be used ("Love Making Love", "Holding On", "It's So You", "New York"), add the 2 maybe 3 MJ tracks, freddie's version of that Aiita Dobson song and you have an album. With people starving for more Freddie it would be huge


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Posted: 15 Jan 12, 09:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes i do agree they could make another album. Id rather a album with some freddie vocals rather than Paul rodgers vocals, he did a good job on the tour but i think the album would have been better with brian and roger vocals. So even what is left of freddies vocals on these demos would be better finished off with brian and roger vocals. Before its to late and there gone also.


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