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Posted: 12 Feb 12, 20:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I recently upgraded my stereo stereo system that included a nice two channel amp, a cd player, reference headphones and a moving magnet cartridge for my turntable.I kept my Klipsch Choruses. While not really top of the line equipment it set me back several grand and so I decided to pick up the new version of NOTW on cd from my local Bestbuy and test things out. I also have this on vinyl, purchased in 1977 and kept in pristine condition. I had both playing at the same time and switched back and forward and I have to say that the vinyl kicked the cd's rear end.
The cd is loud, lots of bass, but lacks the warmth the vinyl shows, particularly with the vocals and bass lines. Drums were snappy on the viny too. Ironic isn't it that we shell out bucks for the umpteenth version of a cd and all the time a 30 year plus piece of plastic is still is , imo, superior. I am going to place an order on Amazon for Innuendo and MIH on vinyl, the only Queen albums I don't have on vinyl.

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Posted: 13 Feb 12, 01:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

ok.

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Posted: 13 Feb 12, 02:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

coops wrote:
I recently upgraded my stereo stereo system that included a nice two channel amp, a cd player, reference headphones and a moving magnet cartridge for my turntable.I kept my Klipsch Choruses. While not really top of the line equipment it set me back several grand and so I decided to pick up the new version of NOTW on cd from my local Bestbuy and test things out. I also have this on vinyl, purchased in 1977 and kept in pristine condition. I had both playing at the same time and switched back and forward and I have to say that the vinyl kicked the cd's rear end.
The cd is loud, lots of bass, but lacks the warmth the vinyl shows, particularly with the vocals and bass lines. Drums were snappy on the viny too. Ironic isn't it that we shell out bucks for the umpteenth version of a cd and all the time a 30 year plus piece of plastic is still is , imo, superior. I am going to place an order on Amazon for Innuendo and MIH on vinyl, the only Queen albums I don't have on vinyl.


Of course you should complete your vinyl set. I have to say, though, that both Innuendo and MIH vinyls sound too similar to the CD's, at least for my ears. Maybe it's because they were both recorded and edited on rather more digital equipment than the earlier albums, so transfering digital sound to an analog format doesn't really help all that much with the sound, when you should really stick to just pure digital option. The only two reasons worth considering to get the vinyls are really the slightly different edits of some of the songs, and the different tracklist on Innuendo vinyl.

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Posted: 13 Feb 12, 04:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

two points:
the "Innuendo" vinyl (both the 91 and the recent EMI re-issue) is plagued by many,many edits
as for the "Made in Heaven" vinyl, it's the one record that sounds better on cd, to my opinion. If you can afford it, get the 95 cream vinyl (posters included)

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Posted: 13 Feb 12, 16:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

JacquesDaniels wrote:
coops wrote:
I recently upgraded my stereo stereo system that included a nice two channel amp, a cd player, reference headphones and a moving magnet cartridge for my turntable.I kept my Klipsch Choruses. While not really top of the line equipment it set me back several grand and so I decided to pick up the new version of NOTW on cd from my local Bestbuy and test things out. I also have this on vinyl, purchased in 1977 and kept in pristine condition. I had both playing at the same time and switched back and forward and I have to say that the vinyl kicked the cd's rear end.
The cd is loud, lots of bass, but lacks the warmth the vinyl shows, particularly with the vocals and bass lines. Drums were snappy on the viny too. Ironic isn't it that we shell out bucks for the umpteenth version of a cd and all the time a 30 year plus piece of plastic is still is , imo, superior. I am going to place an order on Amazon for Innuendo and MIH on vinyl, the only Queen albums I don't have on vinyl.

Of course you should complete your vinyl set. I have to say, though, that both Innuendo and MIH vinyls sound too similar to the CD's, at least for my ears. Maybe it's because they were both recorded and edited on rather more digital equipment than the earlier albums, so transfering digital sound to an analog format doesn't really help all that much with the sound, when you should really stick to just pure digital option. The only two reasons worth considering to get the vinyls are really the slightly different edits of some of the songs, and the different tracklist on Innuendo vinyl.

For someone who stopped collecting in 2003... how does the track listing differ on INNUENDO (LP format)..?



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Posted: 13 Feb 12, 16:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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JacquesDaniels wrote:
coops wrote:
I recently upgraded my stereo stereo system that included a nice two channel amp, a cd player, reference headphones and a moving magnet cartridge for my turntable.I kept my Klipsch Choruses. While not really top of the line equipment it set me back several grand and so I decided to pick up the new version of NOTW on cd from my local Bestbuy and test things out. I also have this on vinyl, purchased in 1977 and kept in pristine condition. I had both playing at the same time and switched back and forward and I have to say that the vinyl kicked the cd's rear end.
The cd is loud, lots of bass, but lacks the warmth the vinyl shows, particularly with the vocals and bass lines. Drums were snappy on the viny too. Ironic isn't it that we shell out bucks for the umpteenth version of a cd and all the time a 30 year plus piece of plastic is still is , imo, superior. I am going to place an order on Amazon for Innuendo and MIH on vinyl, the only Queen albums I don't have on vinyl.

Of course you should complete your vinyl set. I have to say, though, that both Innuendo and MIH vinyls sound too similar to the CD's, at least for my ears. Maybe it's because they were both recorded and edited on rather more digital equipment than the earlier albums, so transfering digital sound to an analog format doesn't really help all that much with the sound, when you should really stick to just pure digital option. The only two reasons worth considering to get the vinyls are really the slightly different edits of some of the songs, and the different tracklist on Innuendo vinyl.

For someone who stopped collecting in 2003... how does the track listing differ on INNUENDO (LP format)..?


"Don't Try So Hard" is located between "Delilah" and "The Hitman", instead of between "I Can't Live With You" and "Ride the Wild Wind".

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Posted: 13 Feb 12, 17:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Be careful of some of the new vinyl. I have them. Some are great and some are disappointing. I got ripped off with the whole "remaster" thing where it was literally just made louder. I got rid of my older cd's and then after buying each album 5 times, I get to be called a theif for dowloading the original one I bought. Most remasters are a complete rip off.

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Posted: 13 Feb 12, 23:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You're usually right, but the latest Queen remasters are much more than the loudness war.

There are countless flaws and blips in the sound that have been fixed this time. These really are the definitive versions.

For the casual fan, none of this is a big deal. But if you truly do love and know these records inside out, there are differences on every one. For example, the first verse of It's Late. All the mic popping has been carefully removed, with a surgeon's touch.


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Posted: 14 Feb 12, 04:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

is it me or do the Hollywood (US) vinyl remasters sound better?

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Posted: 14 Feb 12, 07:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

JacquesDaniels wrote:
matt z wrote:
JacquesDaniels wrote:
coops wrote:
I recently upgraded my stereo stereo system that included a nice two channel amp, a cd player, reference headphones and a moving magnet cartridge for my turntable.I kept my Klipsch Choruses. While not really top of the line equipment it set me back several grand and so I decided to pick up the new version of NOTW on cd from my local Bestbuy and test things out. I also have this on vinyl, purchased in 1977 and kept in pristine condition. I had both playing at the same time and switched back and forward and I have to say that the vinyl kicked the cd's rear end.
The cd is loud, lots of bass, but lacks the warmth the vinyl shows, particularly with the vocals and bass lines. Drums were snappy on the viny too. Ironic isn't it that we shell out bucks for the umpteenth version of a cd and all the time a 30 year plus piece of plastic is still is , imo, superior. I am going to place an order on Amazon for Innuendo and MIH on vinyl, the only Queen albums I don't have on vinyl.

Of course you should complete your vinyl set. I have to say, though, that both Innuendo and MIH vinyls sound too similar to the CD's, at least for my ears. Maybe it's because they were both recorded and edited on rather more digital equipment than the earlier albums, so transfering digital sound to an analog format doesn't really help all that much with the sound, when you should really stick to just pure digital option. The only two reasons worth considering to get the vinyls are really the slightly different edits of some of the songs, and the different tracklist on Innuendo vinyl.

For someone who stopped collecting in 2003... how does the track listing differ on INNUENDO (LP format)..?

"Don't Try So Hard" is located between "Delilah" and "The Hitman", instead of between "I Can't Live With You" and "Ride the Wild Wind".


Not only that because Slightly Mad, Headlong, I Can't Live With You, Don't Try So Hard, All God's People, TATDOOL, The Hitman and Bijou have been more or less severely edited on the vinyl version.