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Posted: 13 Feb 12, 12:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

why would you begin a debate about an album you don't own?
surely that's like saying "jupiter or earth, where would you rather live?"
ps - Queen II everytime, and Venus ;-)


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Posted: 13 Feb 12, 12:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, a very good point. You gotta have the album first...

itunes?

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Posted: 13 Feb 12, 14:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

brENsKi wrote:
why would you begin a debate about an album you don't own?
surely that's like saying "jupiter or earth, where would you rather live?"
ps - Queen II everytime, and Venus ;-)


LOL

PS: Queen II and Mercury (heh)



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Posted: 13 Feb 12, 14:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

No contest - A Night At The Opera.

Queen II was where their vision took a big step forward, but they perfected it by ANATO. Queen II had progressive and ambitious compositions, but it didn't have the diversity of styles nor the accessibility.

It's a common trait for hardcore fans of artists to want to bring more attention to lesser-known records that may have stronger material, but in Queen's case their best-known record is creatively their best one as well. ANATO has everything one needs to know about Queen. Even side 2 alone is pretty much the entire picture.


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Posted: 13 Feb 12, 16:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sheer heart attack.

That's probably really annoying of me to say, but it's true.

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Posted: 13 Feb 12, 16:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The Real Wizard wrote:
No contest - A Night At The Opera.
Queen II was where their vision took a big step forward, but they perfected it by ANATO. Queen II had progressive and ambitious compositions, but it didn't have the diversity of styles nor the accessibility.
It's a common trait for hardcore fans of artists to want to bring more attention to lesser-known records that may have stronger material, but in Queen's case their best-known record is creatively their best one as well. ANATO has everything one needs to know about Queen. Even side 2 alone is pretty much the entire picture.

but what about your planet?
so far we have venus and mercury (although i think that choice was queen-centric)


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Posted: 13 Feb 12, 16:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm in a rocket ship on my way to Mars on a collision course, myself.

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Posted: 13 Feb 12, 16:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

A Night At The Opera wins it for me. Queen II is an extremely close second.

Uranus, by the way. ;)


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Posted: 13 Feb 12, 19:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Since this a debate, I'll say without debate Queen II......is it youranus or myanus ;-)

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Posted: 13 Feb 12, 19:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yep Sheer Heart Attack for me too Day dop.

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Posted: 13 Feb 12, 20:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The Real Wizard wrote:
No contest - A Night At The Opera.
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agreed. A Day At The Races trumps II as well

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Posted: 13 Feb 12, 20:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Why isn't your favorite planet Mercury?

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Posted: 13 Feb 12, 21:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

No contest - Queen II...

A Night is good... excelent... but Queen II is a bit (a little tad) better:

The March of the Black Queen beats Bohemian Rhapsody

From Anato we have that Excellent song called the Prophet´s song, But Queen II has Ogre Battle that is excellent too. (draw)

Procesion/Father to son is excellent as well Death On two legs (draw)

White Queen is wonderfull... almost legendary beats Sweet Lady too

Funny How love is a bit better than Lazing on the Sunday afternoon, but maybe an draw

Someday one day and Good company... musically Good company wins but in the lyrics wins Someday one day (draw)

I´m in love with my car is better than The loser in the end

The fairy feller´s master stroke beats Seaside Rendesvouz

Love of My Life is Beautiful... maybe better than Nevermore that is (maybe) too short... Love of my life is a know one.

Seven seas of Rhye beats You´re My Best Friend

and god save the Queen is only an anthem (i like procession more altough)



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Posted: 13 Feb 12, 21:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Queen II all the way

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Posted: 13 Feb 12, 22:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

But aside from personal taste, what does Queen II have that A Night At The Opera doesn't have? I've always wanted to hear a good answer to this one..


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Posted: 13 Feb 12, 23:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'd say Queen II. A Night At The Opera is brilliant, but there's just something about Queen II.

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Posted: 14 Feb 12, 01:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The Real Wizard wrote:
But aside from personal taste, what does Queen II have that A Night At The Opera doesn't have? I've always wanted to hear a good answer to this one..

Freddie's masterpiece - side black
complete and utter genius
the embryo of Bo Rhap (FFMS/nevermore/black queen)

and to it's immense credit it also lacks something that Opera doesn't - the god-awful "sweet lady"


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Posted: 14 Feb 12, 03:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The Real Wizard wrote:
But aside from personal taste, what does Queen II have that A Night At The Opera doesn't have? I've always wanted to hear a good answer to this one..

Atmosphere


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Posted: 14 Feb 12, 06:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Personally, I prefer Queen II to ANATO; however, I'm not saying it's better. Like Bob pointed out, they reached a creative pinnacle at that point and, based on sheer production alone, it is far superior. Roy Thomas was reaching a peak as well as the band!


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Posted: 14 Feb 12, 07:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Interesting point about the production on ANATO.
If you are going to make that comparison look at it from another view.
Queen II was recorded on a 16 track machine, which when you listen to it now makes it that much more special, the amount of multi tracked guitars and vocals take it beyond just 16 track recording. To me that and Sheer Heart Attack are Roy Thomas Bakers best Queen production jobs.

ANATO was recorded on 24 track machines at multiple studios, again they were pushing the boundaries but the end product in some ways sounds brittle and lacks the warmth and earthiness that the earlier albums had and indeed that The self produced A Day At The Races captured, which I believe is a better sounding album than ANATO