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Posted: 01 Mar 12, 15:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I was just playing the film at the studio: cracking up with laughter and hilarity... when it occurred to me that i haven't been in the loop lately as concerns "bad" films that are enjoyable.

This isn't just for camp films... also weird but obscure films


Any fans on QZ out there familiar with films in this vein?


I'm gonna go on record and give some of my favorites. I realize that this QZ forum is worldwide, so this topic may open doors to newer and bad/cult/rude/weird/irreverent but somehow incredible films.

Death Wish 3 [the ultimate bad movie]
Meet The Feebles
Class of 1984 (this is beginning to look like a documentary compared to some school kids i know)
The Warriors
Berry Gordy's Last Dragon
The Happiness of The Katakuris
Flash Gordon
Ed and His Dead Mother
Matinee
Michael Jackson's GHOSTS




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Posted: 02 Mar 12, 16:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Holly2003 wrote:  But for so bad it;s good, anything M. NightShyamalan did after 2004, especailly The Happening (2008). Awful, but unmissable due to lines like "beware the wind!"

Oh this this this.  I watched that movie alternately slack jawed and dumbfounded or in fits of helpless giggles.  I couldn't believe how unbelievably bad what was happening in front of my eyes was.  The script, the acting, the plot, the trees!  All almost completely insane.  I didn't read until much later that he intended it as a 'great B movie' so it was even worse because I thought it was meant to be serious in that slightly heavy handed M. Night kind of way.  Nobody, nobody should miss this for bad movie value.  This is the movie where I finally gave up on M. Night.  I didn't listen to the critics for Lady in the Water.  I didn't listen to them for The Village. I persevered on my appreciation mostly for Unbreakable and Signs.  But  The Happening just did me in.  I didn't even see Airbender.

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Posted: 02 Mar 12, 17:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I really didn't "get" Lady in the Water but I just presumed I was missing something -- maybe some cultural thing -- and moved on. The Village was, at least, interesting for long periods of time, even though the ending was telegraohed from about haf way through. Unbreakable and Signs were flawed but kinda fun. The Happening ... hilariously bad, as you say. I took my kids to see The Last Airbender and even they were bored. It is painful.


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Posted: 07 Mar 12, 22:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The Sixth Sense was such a great film (brilliant performances, great screenplay, perfectly structured) and Unbreakable was terrific, I thought that he had more than two good films up his sleeve. It turns out that I was wrong (although Signs wasn't so bad.)

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Posted: 08 Mar 12, 10:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Although I recognize The Sixth Sense as a quality film I didn't really didn't share the generally excellent reception of it. Not completely sure why. Not a particular fan of Bruce Willis, and unlike the rest of the world Haley Joel Osment's character almost grated on me. How horrible am I to be irritated by a precocious, overly dramatic little kid and his sad, weary little face. LOL Also, I saw that ending coming about a half hour before it came. That's unusual for me because I usually just sort of surrender to the pleasure of a good story, but sometimes it just pops, as it did with Sixth Sense and also the Village as was mentioned. Weirdly perhaps, I really, really liked Signs. Or maybe not weirdly - Ebert gave it 4 stars too. The tension he drew out of those cornfields was extremely skillfull, and I think my life was at a place at the time that the messages of the film really resonated. I remember I came home from the theatre and sat out on my front steps just sort of reflecting on this movie I had just really enjoyed in the quiet of a beautiful evening and out of nowhere came the most vivid and beautiful Northern Lights display I've ever seen from my latitude. It's a little unexpected pleasure I will always associate with that film.

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Posted: 08 Mar 12, 14:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've always had a soft spot for bad horror and SF films. I don't mean the really really bad slasher flicks or those crappy sci-fi channel films, the ones I like are the big flashy failures like War of the Worlds, Godzilla, The Core, Wild Wild West etc. It amuses me greatly that so much money was spent on effects or paying Tom Cruise's wages and so little money spent on a decent script. I haven't seen Cowboys and Aliens yet, but I suspect it falls into that category.

ps Grateful Fan, have you seen The Descendents yet? Recommended.


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Posted: 08 Mar 12, 23:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Not yet. You takin' me? ;) I strongly considered The Descendents the night I ended up seeing the The Grey actually but ended up deciding that The Grey would probably depend more on the big screen for effectiveness than The Decendents in case I ended up missing one or the other. Though Hawaii probably would have been beautiful 40 feet high. :( I'm glad to hear the positive recommendation because it's one I'm really looking forward to. Out of the theatre now, but I think it is out on DVD next week or the week after, which usually means the satellite rental isn't far behind.

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Posted: 09 Mar 12, 01:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I find The Decendents so-so only. As usual George Clooney cannot act.

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Posted: 09 Mar 12, 02:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The Grey's a fun film. :D

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Posted: 09 Mar 12, 02:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

tcc wrote: "As usual George Clooney cannot act."

I completely disagree. I think he was wonderful in The Descendents, and I consider him to be a great actor. He isn't showy or theatrical, he's very subtle and always gets to the heart of the character he is playing. He is also unafraid to come across as unappealing, and he prefers substance over style. I have a lot of respect for him.

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Posted: 09 Mar 12, 08:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Amazon wrote: The Grey's a fun film. :D

It was a good film and I'm glad I saw it.  But of all the words in the English language "fun" is the literally the very last one I'd pick for The Grey.  That film stuck to me for a full day afterward and all I felt when I left the theatre was a quiet melancholy. Roger Ebert wrote that on the day he reviewed it the screener was showing another film for reviewers to watch right after, as is common.  He decided to leave the second film 30 minutes into it because reviewing it in the state of mind he was in felt unfair to the filmmaker. It was the first time in his career he'd ever had to do that because of the way the previous film had made him feel.

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Posted: 09 Mar 12, 08:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Amazon wrote: I completely disagree. I think he was wonderful in The Descendents, and I consider him to be a great actor. He isn't showy or theatrical, he's very subtle and always gets to the heart of the character he is playing. He is also unafraid to come across as unappealing, and he prefers substance over style. I have a lot of respect for him.

Agree about Clooney.   In some ways he's the last great movie star in the tradition of old Hollywood.  I can't recall leaving any film he's been in with anything but respect for his role and his work. I read an interview with him about The Descendants that said he couldn't relate to his character because the character was at a place in his life where he was trying to do good by everybody, and he didn't necessarily see that in his own makeup.  I thought that was an interesting acknowledgement and a reminder of the skill and demands involved in creating a character, sometimes from nothing.

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Posted: 09 Mar 12, 08:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Did anybody notice we all spelled 'Descendants' wrong? All of us! LOL @ us. :)

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Posted: 09 Mar 12, 08:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What didn't you like about the film tcc? It's the kind of film I think I'd find impossible not to like. I love effective character driven stuff.

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Posted: 09 Mar 12, 12:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Reefer Madness.


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Posted: 09 Mar 12, 23:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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What didn't you like about the film tcc? It's the kind of film I think I'd find impossible not to like. I love effective character driven stuff.



It is not convincing. The actor who played the wife's lover is so ugly that I cannot imagine the wife wanting to have an affair with him.

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Posted: 10 Mar 12, 01:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well that does sound serious. I was going to rent it at 7, but maybe I'll think about deferring it to 7:45. Or even 8. :P

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Posted: 11 Mar 12, 09:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Posted: 20 Mar 12, 01:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sergei. wrote:
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Hmm!

sounds promising.. thank you... i'll delve into some research


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