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Posted: 09 Apr 12, 13:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

According to the Independent Newspaper Queen's Greatest Hits 1 has sold over 5.8 million copies and has beaten The Beatles Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band which has sold only 5 million copies.

The full Story http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/well-it-is-jubilee-year-queens-greatest-hits-is-britains-bestselling-album-of-past-halfcentury-7627530.html.

Queen's Greatest Hits 2 also appears on the list at number 10.

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Posted: 09 Apr 12, 16:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

why is this an acomplishment? so a greatest hits compilation outsells a regular lp...wow
now if you'd said ANATO outsold SPLHCB then that would be worthy of news

if we are going to give this list some real meaning we need to strip out all of the greatest hits albums...this leaves a top ten of "actual band studio recordings" that look like this

1. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967) The Beatles
2. What's The Story (1995) Oasis
3. Thriller (1982) Michael Jackson
4. 21 (2011) Adele
5. Brothers In Arms (1985) Dire Straits
6. Dark Side Of The Moon (1973) Pink Floyd
7. Bad (1987) Michael Jackson
8. Back To Black (2006) Amy Winehouse
9. Stars (1991) Simply Red
10. Rumours (1977) Fleetwood Mac


...which is pretty much how i would;ve seen this list being at any time in the last ten years....Adele excluded

weird how Queen's best-selling studio recording didn't even make the top 40....now thta says more about queen...

think about it, the public put BOTH greatest hits albums in there, like madonna, abba etc, but don't include opera. that makes queen a singles band, by most accounts.



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Posted: 09 Apr 12, 16:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What about the 11 million it (Sgt Peppers) sold in the US to Queen's GH1 8 million?

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Posted: 09 Apr 12, 16:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i think the point of this thread was that it was about "selective glory"


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Posted: 09 Apr 12, 19:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

brENsKi is completely right.


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Posted: 09 Apr 12, 21:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Why is everyone talking about this all of a sudden? Really, the fact that Queen's compilations are at the top instead of "real" albums boils down to the differences in how the bands have handled their legacies. The Beatles have released some compilation albums, but don't overwhelm people with them. Queen kind of does. Really, it's just the same old point that Queen should have handled their legacy differently, but they didn't and they still aren't, and no matter how much me or anyone else complains, their back catalogue gets little attention. That's all it is. How their legacies are handled.


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Posted: 09 Apr 12, 22:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

That's a very valid point waunakonor. They wanted to be a hits band, they got what they wanted.

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Posted: 10 Apr 12, 10:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

and consquently "opera" "II" and "races" get completely overlooked in any true great lists


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Posted: 10 Apr 12, 23:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Which is why they did the deep cuts albums.In the vain hope that the general buying public would pick up on them.Which they didnt.


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Posted: 11 Apr 12, 10:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"stable door" and "horse" are the key words here.
deep cuts were too little too late....why release these 20 years after the last time the four of them recorded anything together?

time to do this was when they were still evolving as a unit - say 78-81 - they coulda stuck to two singles per album but the didn't.

The Game - 4 singles
Hot Space - 4 singles
The Works - 4 singles
AKOM - 4 singles
The Miracle - 5 singles
Innuendo - 5 singles?

by this time their reputation as a singles band was cemented.


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Posted: 11 Apr 12, 16:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Most of the remaining real albums on the list released plenty singles from them. They are all still just collections of songs. Is the "problem" with Queen from this angle that they released so many albums in a short period of time around the early to mid 70s. Had there been one mid 70s album with Killer Queen, Bo Rhap and Somebody to Love on it for example surely this would have created one truly massive smash album.

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Posted: 12 Apr 12, 03:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I don't think they always meant to be a singles band, however once it got to the point of AKOM and The Miracle this was pretty evident, considering those are basically singles and filler

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Posted: 12 Apr 12, 11:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

AlbaNo1 wrote:
Most of the remaining real albums on the list released plenty singles from them. They are all still just collections of songs. Is the "problem" with Queen from this angle that they released so many albums in a short period of time around the early to mid 70s. Had there been one mid 70s album with Killer Queen, Bo Rhap and Somebody to Love on it for example surely this would have created one truly massive smash album.

you don't need to release loads of singles to shift warehouses full of albums, you just need to make something good.
Rumours, Thriller, DSOTM, Zep4 and Brothers in Arms weren't still popping in and out of the album charts years after release because of further single releases - they were in the charts because they were really good albums
floyd, zeppelin and other respected bands never bothered with singles, the who used to limit it to one or two per album and the beatles were in the habit of new singles not being on the album that followed. good example being Sgt Peppers - where Strawberry Fields/Penny Lane were not included, because they adopted a policy of "new album = new material"


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Posted: 15 Apr 12, 13:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Im just doing basic maths here and applying hypothetically - the bulk of the best selling UK album is made up of songs released by Queen between 74-78 or so but spread over 6 albums. Thats a lot. Had there been more concentration of hits on one or two albums these would have sold more and greatest hits less.




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Posted: 15 Apr 12, 16:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

AlbaNo1 wrote:
Im just doing basic maths here and applying hypothetically - the bulk of the best selling UK album is made up of songs released by Queen between 74-78 or so but spread over 6 albums. Thats a lot. Had there been more concentration of hits on one or two albums these would have sold more and greatest hits less.

well i would have to disagree. or at least question which incompetent twat of a maths teacher you had.

Sgt Pepper's & Dark Side of the Moon had (to the best of my knowledge) zero UK singles released off either...and they did pretty well.


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brENsKi wrote:
AlbaNo1 wrote:
Im just doing basic maths here and applying hypothetically - the bulk of the best selling UK album is made up of songs released by Queen between 74-78 or so but spread over 6 albums. Thats a lot. Had there been more concentration of hits on one or two albums these would have sold more and greatest hits less.

well i would have to disagree. or at least question which incompetent twat of a maths teacher you had.
Sgt Pepper's & Dark Side of the Moon had (to the best of my knowledge) zero UK singles released off either...and they did pretty well.

Actually, DSotM has a couple singles, and Money charted as a hit, but you still have a good point


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Posted: 16 Apr 12, 03:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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brENsKi wrote:
AlbaNo1 wrote:
Im just doing basic maths here and applying hypothetically - the bulk of the best selling UK album is made up of songs released by Queen between 74-78 or so but spread over 6 albums. Thats a lot. Had there been more concentration of hits on one or two albums these would have sold more and greatest hits less.

well i would have to disagree. or at least question which incompetent twat of a maths teacher you had.
Sgt Pepper's & Dark Side of the Moon had (to the best of my knowledge) zero UK singles released off either...and they did pretty well.

Actually, DSotM has a couple singles, and Money charted as a hit, but you still have a good point

NOT in the UK !
Another Birck in the Wall (pt2) was their first UK single since the 1960s


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brENsKi wrote:
AlbaNo1 wrote:
Im just doing basic maths here and applying hypothetically - the bulk of the best selling UK album is made up of songs released by Queen between 74-78 or so but spread over 6 albums. Thats a lot. Had there been more concentration of hits on one or two albums these would have sold more and greatest hits less.

well i would have to disagree. or at least question which incompetent twat of a maths teacher you had.
Sgt Pepper's & Dark Side of the Moon had (to the best of my knowledge) zero UK singles released off either...and they did pretty well.


I dont think anything could turn Queen into Floyd. But what realistically could have been done, which I think some of the band have mentioned since was that Race/Opera could have been released as a double album. Thats the kind of idea Im driving at. One massive album at peak given time to sell.

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Posted: 17 Apr 12, 03:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i take your point about the marketing angle.
the swaing point about the band was probably - the money - the band were struggling - no money from the record sales - the management had been sacked.
think they decided to maimise the commercial aspects and singles used to make loads of money back then.
one point to note. pink floyd, beatles, ... made their double labums much later on in their careers.
beatles - white album - 10th album
pink floyd - the wall - 10th album

by the time queen woulda reached their 10th album - Hot Space, the double album was no longer that fashionable


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