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Posted: 22 May 12, 15:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi folks i bought the new 2012 version of the Cosmos Rocks.Nothing new except new cd case and track writing credits.Not even a remix of Celebrity in sight !

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Posted: 22 May 12, 15:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

So in other words Queen have just sold you a tarted up version of something you already own?


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Posted: 22 May 12, 16:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

staggering....couldn't say i saw that one coming...not like they EVER pulled that stunt before :-)


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Posted: 22 May 12, 21:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You didn't even bother to do a little research on it before you spent money on the thing? That would probably have been smart.


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Posted: 22 May 12, 23:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

When the original Parlophone 2008 Tour Edition came out, it did not list individual songwriting credits, just "All songs by Queen + Paul Rodgers."

The Hollywood Records version a few months later actually listed each song's writer.

Sounds like Universal is taking their cue from Hollywood Records.

Does the new Universal edition claim to be remastered or anything? If it was simply a re-issue by the new label, with no bells and whistles, it's no crime. The album is part of their catalogue, of course they'll release it under the new label.

If it didn't have anything new, I wouldn't have felt any obligation to buy it.

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Posted: 23 May 12, 00:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Maybe a track by track commentary on why most of the album was bad, rushed, poorly conceived, hurriedly executed.

Or maybe that's something only Spinal Tap would do...like on SHARK SANDWICH.


Ftr: I like a few tracks... A lot.

Just too much bad stuff on it, bad mixes even. And a jaw dropping laughingly stupidly titled song: SURF'S UP, SCHOOL'S OUT.


Overall, it didn't have the vitality or fun of a Queen album, but it had the MOR flavoring of a Bad Company album, but none of the spice and sting of an ORIGINAL (line up) era FREE album...

But it was nowhere near as bad as an album by THE FIRM.
Thanks for the warning... I wasn't looking to buy it again anyways. I lucked out and spent an extra $5 to get the one with the Japan highlights on DVD... That was great.

Album art sucked balls though.


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Posted: 23 May 12, 02:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Seriously, what is it with the need to inject negativity into every subject on Queenzone??

Pathetic!

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Posted: 23 May 12, 08:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I new that there were no extras on the disc,but i thought it might have been remasterd. But no it is the same release as before with just a new cd case.I already have the release with the Super Queen in Japan DVD,which is available again,though Amazon want nearly £20 for it.

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Posted: 23 May 12, 11:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"SURF'S UP, SCHOOL'S OUT" - there is really a song on it called that?! Wow, Q+PR are soooo cool...

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Posted: 23 May 12, 11:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Surf's Up is a great Roger track, IMHO.

Cheers,

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Posted: 23 May 12, 14:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

inu-liger wrote:
Seriously, what is it with the need to inject negativity into every subject on Queenzone??
Pathetic!


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It's easier for most people to complain than it is to offer anything worthwhile.

What amuses me most is when positive comments appear, the posters are accused of being sycophantic Yes Men who blindly accept every Queen release as the greatest thing since sliced bread.

It's never going to stop, so my approach is to try to leave value judgements to a minimum now and advance our collective knowledge.

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Posted: 23 May 12, 14:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Maybe it's as simple as Paul Rodgers' legal team doing it's job. Maybe this clears the way for a possible reunion tour. Maybe there's a lot of things we don't take into account when a label releases something.

File under "Felder, Don".


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Posted: 23 May 12, 16:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Fair point.
I'll withdraw my humorous blight next time and save it for an analysis of the album, rather than its packaging and additional/lack of content.

I DID mention there were some good songs; and that the preferred version would undoubtedly be the one with a bonus dvd. THAT bit, was exciting.

Its just a catalogue #, but I don't see why "Runaway" wouldn't be included, for the simple fact that it was made during those sessions.



Was the fan base anticipating a release of the 46664 studio tracks??

Maybe "take love"?


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Posted: 23 May 12, 17:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

can somebody, please, post the track writing credits of "Cosmos Rocks"? Thanks in advance)


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Posted: 24 May 12, 03:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Mercury Roadrunner wrote: can somebody, please, post the track writing credits of "Cosmos Rocks"? Thanks in advance)

1. Cosmos Rockin' (Taylor, Rodgers, May)
2. Time To Shine (Rodgers, May, Taylor)
3. Still Burnin' (May, Rodgers, Taylor)
4. Small (Taylor, May, Rodgers)
5. Warboys (Rodgers, Taylor, May)
6. We Believe (May, Rodgers, Taylor)
7. Call Me (Rodgers, May, Taylor)
8. Voodoo (Rodgers, May, Taylor)
9. Some Things That Glitter (May, Taylor, Rodgers)
10. C-lebrity (Taylor, May, Rodgers)
11. Through The Night (Rodgers, May, Taylor)
12. Say It's Not True (Taylor, Rodgers, May) *(originally credited as just "Roger Taylor" on the 2007 single release)
13. Surf's Up . . . School's Out! (Taylor, Rodgers, May)
14. small reprise (Taylor, May, Rodgers)

You're welcome.

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Posted: 24 May 12, 03:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

All tracks were written between the three of them.With Roger taking the lead on Cosmos Rockin,Small,Celeb,Not True,Surfs Up.Brian lead on Burnin,Believe,Things That Glitter.Paul lead writer on,Shine,Warboys,Call Me,Voodo,Through The Night.Hope that helps.

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Posted: 24 May 12, 05:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for the answers!)


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Posted: 24 May 12, 09:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Should we read more into the order of the second and third contributors? We know the first one is the one who took the lead but what about the order of the other two?

For instance, We Believe says "May, RODGERS, Taylor" and Some things that glitter says "May, TAYLOR, Rodgers".

On the other hand, Say it's not true has "Taylor, RODGERS, May" which is weird because I would assumed Brian had a lot more to do with that track with the big production on the new arrangement.


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Posted: 24 May 12, 09:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Brilliant, so the songs are STILL credited to Queen + Paul Rodgers then.

Marketing genius if ever I saw it.


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Posted: 24 May 12, 14:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

That really is an exercise in ego isn't it?!

Crediting Say It's Not True to all three of them is crap - RT wrote it, and that's a clear fact from the original version. The Cosmos Rocks version is simply an arrangement, no change to the structure, lyrics, chords etc. You may as well give Five, Dappy, Britney/Beyonce/Pink, John Farnham etc a writing credit for WWRY.

They didn't credit Heaven For Everyone to Queen on the Made In Heaven version, and it stayed as credited to RT, despite a very big re-working, and the fact that they had made big noises about always crediting all songs to the band regardless from The Miracle onwards.