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Posted: 26 May 12, 20:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I was listening through the News Of The World today and finally realized how incredibly fantastic the album is. In my opinion, the album is overlooked as being one of Queen's best work next. I know the album was always consider a good album but it still never gets the praise it should. It's a stripped down hard version of Queen. It showed that the group could still produce kick ass songs without all the fancy overdubs. And let me add that the entire album was produced by Queen themselves. It also contains some two of the most underated Queen songs. It's Late and Spread Your Wings. They were both singles, so I really can't understand why these songs were not hits.

Do you agree that NOTW is underated in some aspects and that is deserves more praise? Do prefer this style of Queen more (a scaled down, rootsier sound)?

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Posted: 26 May 12, 22:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Stewie didn't dislike the music, he was frightened by the cover artwork.. And I don't think there's any dispute that NOTW is one of their better albums.

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Posted: 27 May 12, 01:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

News of the World is a great album, great song placement and order as well ...although,"All Dead,All Dead" was/and IS still a mystery to me (dont quite know why)brings visions of "all around the mullberry bush" (yes, THAT vicious little nursery rhyme about the 'bubonic plague')'ALL FALL DOWN"!!!! YIKES! ...other than that, NOTW is a very potent piece of work that shouldn't be overlooked as one of Queens most rawest and most powerful albums

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Posted: 27 May 12, 01:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's a great record, but I disagree about the song order - most queen albums have the problem if track order but I honestly wouldn't know where to start changing it.

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Posted: 27 May 12, 12:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I actually really like the track order. I love the rawness of the album as well. I believe Slash is a fan of the album too

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Posted: 27 May 12, 13:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah. It was actually the first Queen album I bought with my own money. On tape from WHSmith.

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Posted: 27 May 12, 19:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'd say it's Queen's most underrated album, for the reasons mentioned in the first post.

This is as accessible as Queen got without catering to the mainstream like they did in the 80s.

The songs were strong and very direct. There was stylistic diversity, especially on side 2. One of the very best sides of Queen music.

It's a shame that few people outside of hardcore Queen fans have heard the album. But this is what happens when the first two songs on the album are more popular than what most bands will put out in their entire career.


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Posted: 27 May 12, 21:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This was the first "tape" I bought back in 1993, when I first became a Queen fan. I wanted something new and had heard of WWRY and WATC. So I bought NOTW. It's the reason I became a Queen fan. I'll never forget hearing that music for the first time.

And people thought Nirvana was changing the landscape of rock...I just told people to listen to NOTW, that was alternative in ONE album alone!

One of my favorites, period.

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Posted: 27 May 12, 22:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"All around the mulberry bush..." as in from "Pop Goes The Weasel"?

That's a 19th Century dance and the origin of the phrase was simply to fill the meter at appropriate point in the dance where the participants jump (on the "Pop!"). The rest of the lyrics were written later, at different times by different people on either side of the Atlantic. The "mulberry" line was added in the 20th Century.

So, yeah, no Plague references there.

Hopefully, that will help you enjoy "All Dead, All Dead" now. It's a beautiful song.

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Posted: 28 May 12, 01:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

ksimpson1960 wrote:
News of the World is a great album, great song placement and order as well ...although,"All Dead,All Dead" was/and IS still a mystery to me (dont quite know why)brings visions of "all around the mullberry bush" (yes, THAT vicious little nursery rhyme about the 'bubonic plague')'ALL FALL DOWN"!!!! YIKES! ...other than that, NOTW is a very potent piece of work that shouldn't be overlooked as one of Queens most rawest and most powerful albums


You must be mad, I think All Dead is brilliant. One of my favourite songs off the album.

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Posted: 28 May 12, 10:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

All Dead, All Dead is about Brian's cat passing away. He confirmed this himself. He was very distraught over his beloved pet passing, so Bri made a song in its memorie.

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Posted: 28 May 12, 11:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



rhyeking wrote: "All around the mulberry bush..." as in from "Pop Goes The Weasel"?

That's a 19th Century dance and the origin of the phrase was simply to fill the meter at appropriate point in the dance where the participants jump (on the "Pop!"). The rest of the lyrics were written later, at different times by different people on either side of the Atlantic. The "mulberry" line was added in the 20th Century.

So, yeah, no Plague references there.

Hopefully, that will help you enjoy "All Dead, All Dead" now. It's a beautiful song.


It seems ksimpson1960 got a wee bit confused. He obviously meant 'Ring a Ring O' Roses', and not 'All Around The Mulberry Bush'. Many people believe that 'Ring a Ring O' Roses' is about the Plague, but as far as I'm aware, that's basically an urban myth.


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Posted: 28 May 12, 21:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Biggzy10 wrote:
It also contains some two of the most underated Queen songs. It's Late and Spread Your Wings. They were both singles, so I really can't understand why these songs were not hits.

It's Late was only released in a few countries, so it couldn't have become a big hit, and the single version includes a highly edited version of the lengthy guitar solo section (which I love dearly) so it's not as good anyway. As for Spread Your Wings, the only good reason for that not being more popular is that Rock You and Champions overshadow it very much.

As for the album, it's got some amazing songs, and I agree with people's reviews, but I just never got into it as much as the first five albums. I guess I just like their sound better when they're layering the guitars and vocals more than is necessary. It's all a matter of taste, I guess.

All Dead, All Dead is an absolutely fantastic song. I swear I'm so close to tearing up whenever I hear that guitar solo. Beautiful. Furthermore, I can relate to Brian.


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Posted: 29 May 12, 03:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bohardy is right. I was going to post that too but the kettle boiled and I forgot. I don't like All Dead that much, maybe would benefit from a de cluttering exercise.

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Posted: 29 May 12, 05:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

dysan wrote:
Bohardy is right. I was going to post that too but the kettle boiled and I forgot. I don't like All Dead that much, maybe would benefit from a de cluttering exercise.

All Dead is a work of genius and has some of Brian's best multi-layered guitar. Perhaps your ears might benefit from decluttering ;)


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Posted: 29 May 12, 06:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It is indeed one of the best examples of his guitar choir brilliance. The tutorial on YT shows the individual parts that make up the piece - let's you make your own version of it.

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Posted: 29 May 12, 11:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"All Dead is a work of genius and has some of Brian's best multi-layered guitar. Perhaps your ears might benefit from decluttering ;)"

Another vote for this. Freakin' LOVE that song.


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Posted: 29 May 12, 12:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Perhaps I'd enjoy it more tucked away on the second side. I never liked the Queen trick of following an up tempo track with a slowie. Also see YTMBA following TYMD on ADATR. Stops the album dead.

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Posted: 29 May 12, 17:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Agree, I never liked All Dead following Sheer Heart Attack. To dramatic change in pace.

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Posted: 03 Jun 12, 06:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

News is in my opinion their most American album even more than The Game. We will Rock you and We are the Champions are like Bohemian Rhapsody songs that have become monsters and go beyond just being hits. Sheer Heart attack i feel is their heaviest song , Spread your Wings i just love, the best song on the album, Deacon was an amazing songwriter with a simpler approach than the other member, i love the way Freddie sings it. Regardless of that if find News a bit uneven with a few weaker songs. It's a good album but i find several albums better overall. Queen 2, Sheer Heart attack, A Night at the Opera, A Day at the Races, Jazz, The Works, The Miracle and Innuendo.