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Posted: 13 Jun 12, 16:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

ROTTERDAM (June 13, 2012) – Miracle, The Dutch Queen cover band, sealed their first record deal with MBR producties BV. Martin Huizinga, Manager of Miracle, and Melchior Rietveldt of MBR Producties BV signed the contract for the production and release of Miracle’s third live album.

The new live album is recorded during the “Katwijkse feestweek” at Huis van Oranje, Katwijk, on April 29th of this year and will be released somewhere in the fall of 2012. Mixing of the recording already started and is in the capable hands of Gerben Klazinga, producer and keyboard player of prog-rock band Knight Area.

The last live CD, entitled Getalive, was released in 2002.

The upcoming CD will be the first one in years featuring the all new line-up: Jordan Trey – Vocals, Jaco Dekker – Guitar, Mark Smit – Keyboards/Vocals, Bart Pellinkhof – Bass guitar and Victor Louisa – Drums/Vocals. The CD will contain about 12 songs of Queen, played by Miracle.

Stay tuned and be sure to follow Miracle on Facebook and Twitter.

For more information, contact Miracle Management:

Martin Huizinga
management@queencoverband.nl
+31 (0) 6 461 54 925
www.miracle-online.nl
www.facebook.com/queencoverband.miracle
www.twitter.com/queencoverband
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Posted: 13 Jun 12, 16:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What was the setlist?

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Posted: 13 Jun 12, 16:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

who cares...
stupid cover bands...

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Posted: 13 Jun 12, 17:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Good for them :)

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Posted: 14 Jun 12, 02:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Interesting & congrats!

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Posted: 14 Jun 12, 05:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

MEDUSA-RULES wrote:
Roger will not be too happy.


Playing "Devil's Advocate" again; as long as the band is paid (Queen Productions) from whatever technical residuals there are to offer, this only really caters to the longevity of the band. Sorry, but its true.

Queen (Brian May + Roger Taylor) will never play minor gigs at pubs, alleys, community fairs, swap meets, dive bars, race tracks etc.

NEITHER will the "QUEEN EXTRAVAGANZA"... However few units the band sells of bastardized versions at GIGS (performing another band's music)
This will ultimately pay off in the long run for whatever audience the cover/tribute band takes.


Personally, I'd find it EMBARRASSING if Queen Prodductions issued a "cast" recording of the "Extravaganza" but I've seen it happen meaningfully with a local band "the Iron Maidens" (all female cover band)

With a bend like that, its worthwhile...


But personally....I don't like cover bands.

HOWEVER...considering the band itself doesn't hit small markets...some Goober "on the town" could stumble in and find out "Hey! Wow!...QUEEN PLAYED ...THOSE. Rock songs???!!... Wow"

And proceed to carry on the band legacy.


I still find it pretty absurd bands dressing up etc as Queen, Aerosmith etc...whomever.

Just throwing in my two cents... I don't know the LEGAL aspects of performing and selling covers of someone elses music.


If someone here does, (Mr Frank Zappa - Simpsons character, I'm thinking of you)


Would you Please explain????

-matt


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Posted: 14 Jun 12, 06:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"Just throwing in my two cents..."

That's a vast overestimation of your value.


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Posted: 14 Jun 12, 07:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Zebonka12 wrote:
"Just throwing in my two cents..."
That's a vast overestimation of your value.



Yes, especially considering there's relatively little copper found in pennies these days; nevermind stateside inflation.

I stand corrected, oh grumbly one.


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Posted: 14 Jun 12, 07:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Zebonka12 wrote:
"Just throwing in my two cents..."
That's a vast overestimation of your value.


I laughed so hard it hurt!

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Posted: 14 Jun 12, 09:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

MEDUSA-RULES wrote:
be careful now
you may do yourself an injury
YOU KNOW.

Thanks for your concern but you are wrong. I don't know how to get an injury from laughing. Please explain?

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Posted: 14 Jun 12, 09:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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I don't know the LEGAL aspects of performing and selling covers of someone elses music.
If someone here does, (Mr Frank Zappa - Simpsons character, I'm thinking of you)

Subtle .. :-)

The laws here are tricky. A band's name, songs, lyrics and logos all have copyright. In theory, the original band can go after a tribute band. But it rarely happens. At the end of the day, bands realize that tribute acts sell records - their records.

I think a Supremes tribute act once got in some legal trouble, and "Blonde Jovi" were given a cease and desist order. But the latter was because the band was so bad and the name was so close to Bon Jovi's name. Last I heard they simply asked them to change their name in the end.

Most tribute acts may suck, but many are quite good. There are Pink Floyd, Bee Gees and Beatles tributes that can recreate the real thing to a tee. Nothing will ever replicate the experience of live music, so there will always be a thirst to hear the music of bands that no longer exist performed live.

If you are a musician - careers can be made with this. A good tribute act with the right business sense can net well over ten grand a night playing in theatres.

And not all of these guys simply spend their lives copying others. It's a job like any other. Playing with a tribute act for a few months can net you enough money to live for the rest of the year, and you can spend the down time creating your own music or doing whatever else you do.


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Posted: 14 Jun 12, 10:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I don't know the LEGAL aspects of performing and selling covers of someone elses music.


Well, if they're selling CDs with songs by Queen... then Roger and Brian will be quite OK with it, as will John.  Checks are nice.

Not a very shrewd business move, though.  Hopefully they sell enough T Shirts, stickers, and bottle openers that don't have any reference to Queen.  That should make up for the loss they'll take on CD sales.

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Posted: 14 Jun 12, 14:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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And just because you are pretending to be Brian may doesn't mean anyone will believe you are.

Since when is Zebonka impersonating Brian?


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Posted: 14 Jun 12, 14:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

He doesn't even sound like Brian May.

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Posted: 14 Jun 12, 15:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This isn't a comment on the validity or orherwise of cover bands in general of Miracle in particular, but I can't believe that a record company would actually sign a deal for this sort of thing.

By the way, my band recorded a cd of a few covers by different acts a couple of years ago (on our own label), and the only one that we wanted to change arrangement on was Crazy Little Thing Called Love (we wanted to cover the version on the Killer Queen Australian tribute release). EMI Publishing refused permission to record that version and said we could only record a version true to the original, which we didn't want to do. Anyway, they threatened us with all sorts if we recorded it according to the version wanted, and so in vain I sent Brian an email to his soapbox to explain this, and he replied within 24 hrs to say 'how awful - that's stupid, leave it with me' . A week later we got an email from EMI out of the blue saying 'oh, we've changed our mind and you can record the Killer Queen arrangement now'.

As a result, my band currently has the sole UK permission to record and release Crazy Little Thing in the same version as the Killer Queen version....and with Brian's personal permission to boot!!! :-)

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Posted: 14 Jun 12, 18:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Nice, cmsdrums!

Thank you "Real Wizard" (I couldn't conjure up the name at 3am in the morning after karaoke)

So basically as I understand it, a band can proceed to even record another artists songs for profit? Or do these have to get clearance as well?
It seems like the venture could capsize with simply one pressing lawsuit.

I understand the fact that a tribute band can sell merch that doesn't completely steal artwork etc. Yeah, I believe I'd listened in on a Blonde Jovi rehearsal, I think it featured members of Little Dolls (ozzy trib)...its not my thing but I get it for the same reasons.



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So basically as I understand it, a band can proceed to even record another artists songs for profit? Or do these have to get clearance as well?
It seems like the venture could capsize with simply one pressing lawsuit.
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Technically if you perform / use someone else’s work, even without making profit, you have to pay royalties. However as others have said normally the bands own good will, and the fact that mostly, going after pub and club singers will cost more than the 25 pence per song they have to pay means bands are okay with it.

But there are instances where the real artists have got really funny and sued for being "too close too the real thing", meatloaf threatened a lawsuit to a tribute act for having a light show, logo and url address too close to his own.
I also know that during the queen and paul rogers tour there were songs gary mullen and the works were not allowed to perform, I want it all being one of them.

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Posted: 14 Jun 12, 22:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"Since when is Zebonka impersonating Brian? "

It's probably talking about my avatar. In which case, yes - anyone who's ever uploaded an avatar image of someone else is clearly attempting an impersonation.


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Posted: 15 Jun 12, 02:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

He doesn't even sound like Brian May.
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Posted: 15 Jun 12, 11:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

matt z wrote:
So basically as I understand it, a band can proceed to even record another artists songs for profit? Or do these have to get clearance as well?
It seems like the venture could capsize with simply one pressing lawsuit.

Exactly - but chances are it will be the record company before the artist. The record company will always have more to gain.

Most artists and record companies are willing to look the other way when it comes to live performances, but if you're going to make money on a physical product, then the business folk will chime in wanting their cut.


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