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Posted: 11 Aug 12, 09:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I like the radio advertisement for the Hot Space concert in Montreal which had been included in the Montreal bootleg - "Get your Hot Space now".

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Posted: 11 Aug 12, 09:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



qz08927 wrote:
tcc wrote:
I like the radio advertisement for the Hot Space concert in Montreal which had been included in the Montreal bootleg - "Get your Hot Space now".

is that available here and now in this forum?
is it just like the montreal show dvd, or do they play more hot space album tracks?


See:

http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1318538/announce-love-for-an-hour-godfather-boxed-set-in-flac.aspx

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Posted: 11 Aug 12, 11:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

qz08927 wrote:
is it just like the montreal show dvd, or do they play more hot space album tracks?

Indeed, there are 5 more tracks from Hot Space, as well as Rock It and Fat Bottomed Girls. The rest is the same.

In early 82 they played Liar, but it was quickly dropped. I still can't believe they didn't play it in North America when they had it in the bag. I just want to go into a time machine and smack them, as just about everyone wanted to hear the early stuff.


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Posted: 11 Aug 12, 13:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Its like asking if Yellow Submarine is the Beatles best song because it is such a departure from all the good things that they did...

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Posted: 11 Aug 12, 14:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, it's one of my favorite Queen albums for its sheer uniqueness among their catalog, for Freddie's vocal performance and, well, it's a real fun album. I enjoy it greatly.
I believe it's still listed as my favorite Queen album in my Queenzone profile.

They went for it, took a great risk with it. It was the last time they did it.

Don't give me that "they were trying to replicate Another one bites the dust's success" crap or say it was Freddie and John taking over the other two's rockier side.
Hot Space is way more than that.

If anything, it was Rog who introduced synths, funk and new wave to the band:
Fight from the Inside -> Fun it -> Coming soon.

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Posted: 11 Aug 12, 14:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"They went for it, took a great risk with it. "

And failed with it....

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Posted: 11 Aug 12, 15:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hot Space is like the finest of wines, better with age.


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Posted: 11 Aug 12, 15:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

master marathon runner wrote:
Hot Space is like the finest of wines, better with age.

not really. it started out as vinegar, and matured into toilet cleaner


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Posted: 11 Aug 12, 15:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It should have been called 'Gay Sex'

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Posted: 11 Aug 12, 17:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

its a crock of shite apart from potf, up and lpda.


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Posted: 11 Aug 12, 18:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

it's a good album, but compaire with the 70's, it's very weak

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Posted: 11 Aug 12, 18:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

NEWS OF THE WORLD.

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Posted: 12 Aug 12, 01:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I can see the reason behind this thread but don't agree. It is one of my favorites as it is such a strange record from the cover down. I do like it very much, but maybe because I'm still trying to 'get it'. Another Queen album that might have been better if the track order was better?

Hearing that beautiful Life Is Real from the tour this year made me dig out the album again. It reminds me of being little. I like.

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Posted: 12 Aug 12, 06:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

A lot of their albums were original and risky. It was very risky to release Bo Rhap in an era of Bay City Rollers and The Osmonds; it was very risky to release We Will Rock You, a song which is possibly the antithesis of the usual Queen style of those days; it was very risky to issue A Night at the Opera, with things like Prophet's Song and Death on Two Legs; it was very risky to release a song like Innuendo in 1991 (when a lot of people used to listen to either Elton John or Nirvana or GnR or Michael Jackson).

Hot Space was a mediocre album. Not because of the style, not because of the alleged sexual nature, but because songwriting and performance were way below what they could and regularly did deliver. Programming a shitty drum machine when you have such a fantastic drummer is an awful decision, as is using a synth-bass when you have John Deacon.

By the way: 'A disco funk rock fusion, mixed with a latin ballad'?

Latin ballad? Really? Where?

Staying Power --> Neither Latin nor ballad.
Dancer --> Neither Latin nor ballad.
Back Chat --> Neither Latin nor ballad.
Body Language --> Neither Latin nor ballad.
Action This Day --> Neither Latin nor ballad.
Put Out the Fire --> Neither Latin nor ballad.
Life Is Real --> Ballad, not Latin.
Calling All Girls --> Ballad (sort of), not Latin.
Las Palabras de Amor --> Ballad, not Latin.
Cool Cat --> Neither Latin nor ballad.
Under Pressure --> Neither Latin nor ballad.

If LPDA is 'Latin Ballad' just for the five Spanish words it uses, then I guess Dancer counts as Schuhplattler because it's got seven German words; Bo Rhap and Ogre Battle, by their side, have a gong so that automatically transforms them into Philippine Kolitang music; Silver Salmon has timbales, that makes it mambo.


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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Posted: 12 Aug 12, 06:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Heh.

Although I'd argue that the decision to use toy keyboards and drums was artistic. Which in itself is a strange choice of word for an album that lacks Queen's artistry.

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Posted: 12 Aug 12, 07:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It could've also been artistic to get Peter Freestone to sing instead of Freddie Mercury, or to replace Brian's guitars with the sound of a fart, yet that wouldn't make the result any good.


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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Posted: 12 Aug 12, 07:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I actually quite like the album other than Cool Cat (embarrassing) and Body Language. Dancer and Put Out the Fire are class!

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Posted: 12 Aug 12, 09:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I agree with Sebastian in that you have Roger and John in the band yet opt for (some quite lame) machine programmed parts. If the album had been recorded and produced differently it may well have been better (although probably still not one of their best).

Having said that, it's got a better sound (to me) than The Works, and the awfully sterile A Kind of Magic album (which also has more filler tracks).

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Posted: 12 Aug 12, 10:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

master marathon runner wrote:
Hot Space is like the finest of wines, better with age.


White wine, perhaps. Palatable when young, a shame to hang on to for years and years.


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Posted: 12 Aug 12, 10:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

As king Freddie once said: All this crap again........


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