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Posted: 15 Aug 12, 16:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I did a mix of this in the dim and distant past, and as the stems have now appeared, I thought I'd update it a bit, so this is a hybrid of the old mix and a new mix from the stems.  There's nothing particularly inventive or radical about this, and it's not as adventurous as PiotreQ's excellent recent mix, nor is this intended to compete with his in any way.  The drum sound is a little different (hopefully improved!), and there's a few little tweaks here and there.  It didn't take long to do, but it was fun, and I hope you enjoy it.  Be quick to download, before Mediafire ban it!

http://www.mediafire.com/?q6p6pdov7c2uxgf


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Posted: 15 Aug 12, 21:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Aw, man... That's just awesome. Your first mix of this was the very first Queen fan mix I ever heard and I nearly fell off my chair while I was listening. I had NO idea that people were doing this sort of thing.

This remix is typically great. I can't really blast it right now but I can't wait until I can. The drums sound good and I love that dive bomb guitar thing on the end. You had that on the last one too. Great ending.

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Posted: 16 Aug 12, 02:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for your kind comments. :)


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Posted: 16 Aug 12, 04:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I enjoyed it :-) Good idea with echoes on some of the vocals and the intro is much more scary than the original one :-) Overall, a very good piece of work!

But there is only one little thing which should be fixed I think. The piano at the beginning seems to be a little bit out of key (comparing to the part a few seconds later when the drums and all the rest are joining), for me it sounds a bit too low. Maybe it was sourced from your previous version, no idea, I'm just assuming. But IMO that piano part sounds definitely too low.

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Posted: 16 Aug 12, 04:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for your comments, Piotre. To be honest. I can't say I've noticed the piano part being out of key. It hasn't been altered in any way from the original, meaning the either the DVD-A or the stems are out of key, if what you hear is correct. As I can't actually hear it being 'out', it would be difficult to fix something that I can't hear is there, but I'll have another closer listen this evening.


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Posted: 16 Aug 12, 04:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sorry, Piotre, I've just listened again on headphones, and it sounds perfectly in key to me. Are you talking about the 'scary' intro part, or the 'plink plink plink' immediately after, just before the other instruments come in? I honestly can't hear any problem with either.


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Posted: 16 Aug 12, 04:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm talking about the 'plink plink plink' ;-) which sounds slightly out of key comparing to the part where the other instruments come in.

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Posted: 16 Aug 12, 05:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Which means that the whole intro part, including the 'scary' bit must be the same, as that was the old mix. The new mix starts with the very first drum beat, so it's where you say the key is out, but I still can't hear it! Aarrgh!!


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Posted: 16 Aug 12, 10:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

OK, if you don't mind, I have changed the pitch (+0,2 tones) of the first part till the other instruments come in and uploaded your remix so you can check if you can hear any difference. For me now it's matched. Hope the attachement works correctly.

Attachment: 1229161918226483.MP3 6 MB
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Posted: 16 Aug 12, 10:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You might hear slight clicks here and there, it was a quick job, without any volume corrections, just wanted to join the parts and export them very quick, you know ;-)

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Posted: 16 Aug 12, 11:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

OK, for some reason I didn't get notifications of your posts, so I didn't see that you'd done this, Piotre, but in the meantime, I've done my own version, and actually lowered the pitch of the stems part, rather than changing the "plink plink plink", as that came from the DVD-A, so I assume that to be more likely to be correct than the stems. I still can't hear any difference myself, but is this any better?

http://www.mediafire.com/?cskb18eyht6ycy9


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Posted: 16 Aug 12, 11:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

By the way, I think you probably had your pitch changer set to preserve duration. or something similar, hence the little audible 'bumps'. :)

Oh, and just another small technicality - the stems are about a second shorter than the original version, which also suggests that, if anything, the pitch (and / or speed) on the stems could be slightly higher. :)


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Posted: 16 Aug 12, 12:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, it's been 'locked', just wanted to change the pitch only and keep the length as it is :-)

You're right. The stems and the original track might be different and that's why there are disparities between these two sources.

As for the link, it doesn't work as the file has been deleted I'm affraid.

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Posted: 16 Aug 12, 12:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Already?? Bugger! I suppose the original one will have as well, then. Running out of places to upload these now. :(


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Posted: 16 Aug 12, 12:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

OK, two chances here - I've zipped and renamed the file, and reuploaded to Mediafire:

http://www.mediafire.com/?7hbkyyku9cwzz9m

and also attached it here:

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Posted: 16 Aug 12, 12:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oh, and 18 downloads of the first upload, and only two people could be bothered to comment.


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Posted: 16 Aug 12, 13:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

For me it's still not matched perfectly. It's nothing serious actually but I still can hear the difference between these two parts. Sorry for being pernickety about this ;-)

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Posted: 16 Aug 12, 13:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm not going to fiddle with it any more, Piotre, as I can't hear any difference, so it's purely guesswork on my part. Not being funny, but are you sure it's not just the different sounding instruments, creating a 'trick of the ear', so to speak? I've also played both of the piano parts, from the stems and from theDVD-A mix, side by side, and to my ears, they sound identical, and I can even get a phasing effect by playing one on top of the other.

Does the original ANATO version sound in tune to you? I have to admit, whenever I listen to Seven Seas Of Rhye, the opening power chord following the piano intro always sounds slightly 'out' to me, but I'd always just assumed it's the way we individually hear things.

Is there any software that you know of which will settle this for us once and for all? I know there's a pitch correction thing in Adobe Audition, but I've never worked out how to use it - lol!


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Posted: 17 Aug 12, 02:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The original ANATO version sounds in tune for me comparing it to the stems. I've checked and compared the sources in Adobe Audition. It would be great to find some software which tells it us graphicaly.

If you can't hear any difference it is likely that like you said it's the way we individually hear things. Maybe you're right. There might be too slight difference...

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Posted: 17 Aug 12, 02:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I respect your comments, Piotre, and I certainly don't disbelieve what you're hearing, but as I can't hear it myself, and have found no way to evidence or compare the versions graphically, I think we'll just have to agree to differ on it. :)

By the way, the part where Freddie sings "Talk like a big business tycoon" is from the DVD-A mix, up to the "b" of "business". Can you hear any pitch discrepancy there?


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