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Posted: 27 Aug 12, 03:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I was watching Queen's performance at live aid, and I wonder why they didn't play another one bites the dust instead of crazy little thing called love. this way they would have played one of john's songs and this was just as if not as popular as CLTCL.. Also, without any sound check, using another guitar was more of a risk with technical difficulties.

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Posted: 27 Aug 12, 03:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Not the best of songs to pick for Live Aid, lyrically I mean. Also, AOBTD isn't the best song to dedicate to beautiful people. :p


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Posted: 27 Aug 12, 04:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Because that year Roger was playing that horribly sounding electric mess.

When a song is so consistently bad during a whole tour, bar the first night because it was played properly, I am glad they stuck to a shorter than regular CLTCL. It's half a miracle that it ended up being one of the highlights each night during the Magic Tour.

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Posted: 27 Aug 12, 04:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

So you feel that doing a song about "biting the dust", during a special show for people who have nothing to eat and are thus in a way literally eating dust, would be a better idea than playing CLTCL?


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Posted: 27 Aug 12, 08:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

My own view is that the weak link (all relative, of course) in the set was Hammer To Fall. Playing to a global audience, including many non-Queen fans, the band rightly chose instantly recognisable hits that lend themselves to audience participation. HTF was the exception. Personally, I wish they'd gone for a judiciously shortened Somebody To Love, which ticks all the boxes: well-known, rocky and singalong-able. AOBTD was their biggest American hit, of course, but I just don't think it has/had the necessary 'oomph' on stage. I think they were wise to leave it out.

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Posted: 27 Aug 12, 08:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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My own view is that the weak link (all relative, of course) in the set was Hammer To Fall. Playing to a global audience, including many non-Queen fans, the band rightly chose instantly recognisable hits that lend themselves to audience participation. HTF was the exception. Personally, I wish they'd gone for a judiciously shortened Somebody To Love, which ticks all the boxes: well-known, rocky and singalong-able. AOBTD was their biggest American hit, of course, but I just don't think it has/had the necessary 'oomph' on stage. I think they were wise to leave it out.


How would Brian have coped without one of his songs in the setlist!?


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Posted: 27 Aug 12, 09:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

We Will Rock You ticks that box, does it not?!

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Posted: 27 Aug 12, 09:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

RalphM wrote:
We Will Rock You ticks that box, does it not?!


lol! Yep, sorry, my mistake.


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Posted: 27 Aug 12, 10:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah, always though HTF is the odd one of in that list. It's the weakest of the lot, not a great song anyway.


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Posted: 27 Aug 12, 10:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bo Rhap and Champions are ballads, Ga Ga electronic pop rock, Rock You stomp anthem and CLTCL oldies rockabilly, so of course they needed guitar driven rocker like Hammer To Fall!

Somebody to Love or AOBTD would have been more recognisable but the set list lacked the hard rock side of Queen. I think Hammer To Fall was an obvious choice being the newest rocker at the time. Now I'm Here or Tie Your Mother Down would have worked well too, I think.

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Posted: 27 Aug 12, 11:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

To answer the question.....AOBTD is very hard on the vocals (nodules)....freddie had been warned against even playing by specialists for his throat...my thoughts are that even hammer to fall was a bit harsh...but it worked


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Posted: 27 Aug 12, 11:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

he (brian) already had one too many songs in the live aid setlist as it was
maybe something huge to replace hammer?

but inretrospect it all worked perfectly on the day...so wtf do we know?


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Posted: 27 Aug 12, 11:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wasn't Hammer to Fall their most recent single, excluding Thank God it's Christmas? I always thought that was the reason they had played it.
But also the fact that it was their only proper hard rock song in the setlist. They wanted to show the world they had moved on from Hot Space, hehe :).

Ok, now what if they had played "Staying Power"?? Without the Apology of course. :)

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Posted: 27 Aug 12, 15:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have ambivalent attitude to HTF, maybe because of its bombast production. But I think it worked perfectly well on that day and was one of the songs which actually made the performance so entertaining. Not to mention that it was their most recent (if not the current?) single. Good choice.

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Posted: 27 Aug 12, 15:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Johan wrote: So you feel that doing a song about "biting the dust", during a special show for people who have nothing to eat and are thus in a way literally eating dust, would be a better idea than playing CLTCL?


Now that you put it that way, hell yes.  Right after Fat Bottomed Girls.

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Posted: 27 Aug 12, 16:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wiley wrote:
They wanted to show the world they had moved on from Hot Space, hehe :).
Ok, now what if they had played "Staying Power"?? Without the Apology of course. :)

Staying Power live, comes in inclusive of the apology - you can't have one wihtout the other :-)


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Posted: 27 Aug 12, 17:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

AOBTD sucked in The Works tour. It improved so much in the Magic Tour. It was Ok to prefer CLTCL over AOBTD, I guess.

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Posted: 27 Aug 12, 17:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm pretty sure they chose not to as they would have been lambasted for singing AOBTD when people were literally starving to death as Live Aid was on.

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Posted: 28 Aug 12, 02:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I really wish they'd played Body Language rather than that pretentious overproduced HTF crap. And yes, AOBTD would have been completely inappropriate. Supported by the fact that Freddie (most likely) omitted 'build your muscles while your body decays' from HTF for the same reason.

Hammer To Fall is a highlight of The Works in my opinion. The lyrics are memorable and slightly thought provoking, and it's one of their uncommon straight rock songs from the 80's. The solo and guitar work are also fantastic. The fact that it was their current single seems to be the most logical reason they played it.

Anyone else notice the slight irony here? That is, the criticism for playing a less obvious song, and playing one song that doesn't necessarily appeal to the masses among a bunch that do. There's not a shadow of a doubt that people would be complaining even more if they'd done the opposite and just played a 'greatest hits' setlist. So I think Hammer To Fall's inclusion was a good choice. It's also a highlight on the DVD in that we see a band member other than Freddie (-GASP-)! The filming frustrated me a lot in that sense.. I'd be waiting for it to cut to John or Roger.. and it just never did. Literally all we see of Roger is in wide shots between songs. I derailed that really quickly but yeah.

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Posted: 28 Aug 12, 02:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I don't think it wasn't only because of the meaning of Another One Bites the Dust. I think it was also because Crazy i just an overall better song to play live... especially to please an enormous crowd.


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