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Posted: 20 Mar 14, 13:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Queen
Mannheim, Germany
MaimarktgelÃĪnde
June 21, 1986


The Mannheim onslaught continues.

This is the best copy of the complete show (but still inferior to the incomplete Queen Reigns The World bootlegs, amongst others that stemmed from it). The silvers were ripped by Olivier Ruth.


http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1377148/announce-1986-06-21-queen-reigns-the-world-lp-transfer-24-bit-48-khz.aspx
http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1377072/announce-1986-06-21-queen-reigns-the-world-cd-rip.aspx


This Wardour bootleg is a better copy of these complete versions:

http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1088789/announce-queen-mannheim-21-juni-1986-fm-1-gen-.aspx
http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1349754/announce-mannheim-21-06-1986-monnem-magic-trial-label.aspx
http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1195174/re-announce-mannheim-21-06-1986.aspx


More info on all the different versions here - http://queenlive.ca/queen/86-06-21.htm


"Definitive Mannheim" (Wardour) silvers > WAV (EAC) > FLAC level 8 (Traders Little Helper)


CD1 :

01. One Vision
02. Tie Your Mother Down
03. In The Lap Of The Gods... Revisited
04. Seven Seas Of Rhye
05. Tear It Up
06. A Kind Of Magic
07. Day-O
08. Under Pressure
09. Another One Bites The Dust
10. Who Wants To Live Forever
11. I Want To Break Free
12. Impromptu
13. Guitar solo
14. Now I'm Here


CD2 :

01. Love Of My Life
02. Is This The World We Created
03. (You're So Square) Baby I Don't Care
04. Hello Mary Lou (Goodbye Heart)
05. Tutti Frutti
06. Bohemian Rhapsody
07. Hammer To Fall
08. Crazy Little Thing Called Love
09. Radio Ga Ga
10. We Will Rock You
11. Friends Will Be Friends
12. We Are The Champions
13. God Save The Queen


http://www.mijnbestand.nl/Bestand-BHQQGLFK8BB4.zip


Enjoy, and keep it lossless !


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Posted: 20 Mar 14, 13:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Danke Bob!


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Posted: 20 Mar 14, 13:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Great!
Thanks to Olivier for the rip of his silver and thanks to Bob for the share!

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Posted: 20 Mar 14, 15:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

MERCI BEAUCOUP

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Posted: 20 Mar 14, 15:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank you Bob. :)


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Posted: 20 Mar 14, 17:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks, as always, Bob and Olivier.

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Posted: 20 Mar 14, 17:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank You Sir Bob

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Posted: 20 Mar 14, 23:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks to Bob and Olivier for this.

Here is a torrent for those who need it:


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Posted: 21 Mar 14, 02:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well - if I understand it correctly, to get the best sounding and most complete version of the concert, I need

- Craaft from godknowswhere (does anybody have it?)
- Gary Moore (I have just an mp3 copy, does anybody have a lossless copy?)
- Level 42 from the torrent shared here recently
- Marillion from the torrent shared a few years ago here
- most of the Queen show from Queen Reigns the World
- the rest of the Queen show from Definitive Mannheim
- the ending speech from "Done Under Pressure in Germany"

Correct?

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Posted: 21 Mar 14, 07:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank you very much!!

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Posted: 21 Mar 14, 09:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks a lot Bob!!


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Posted: 21 Mar 14, 11:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

pittrek wrote:

Well - if I understand it correctly, to get the best sounding and most complete version of the concert, I need

- Craaft from godknowswhere (does anybody have it?)
- Gary Moore (I have just an mp3 copy, does anybody have a lossless copy?)
- Level 42 from the torrent shared here recently
- Marillion from the torrent shared a few years ago here
- most of the Queen show from Queen Reigns the World
- the rest of the Queen show from Definitive Mannheim
- the ending speech from "Done Under Pressure in Germany"

Correct?


That looks pretty accurate to me !


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Posted: 21 Mar 14, 12:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

pittrek wrote:

Well - if I understand it correctly, to get the best sounding and most complete version of the concert, I need

- Craaft from godknowswhere (does anybody have it?)
- Gary Moore (I have just an mp3 copy, does anybody have a lossless copy?)
- Level 42 from the torrent shared here recently
- Marillion from the torrent shared a few years ago here
- most of the Queen show from Queen Reigns the World
- the rest of the Queen show from Definitive Mannheim
- the ending speech from "Done Under Pressure in Germany"

Correct?


What a mess! Mamma mia!


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PM me if you want any [leaked] multitrack.

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Posted: 22 Mar 14, 02:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

IMHO,
two worthy sources for this Queen broadcast recording are 'Gypsy Eye' and 'Reigns The World'.
Both need some EQ processing to be closer to each other in sound. Wardour/Trial source has distorted high-end frequency range, some noise and crackling and is not suitable.

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Posted: 22 Mar 14, 04:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1195174/re-announce-mannheim-21-06-1986.aspx

^ this?

The Gypsy Eye bootleg is definitely inferior to this one.


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Posted: 22 Mar 14, 05:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

pittrek wrote:

Well - if I understand it correctly, to get the best sounding and most complete version of the concert, I need

- Craaft from godknowswhere (does anybody have it?)
- Gary Moore (I have just an mp3 copy, does anybody have a lossless copy?)
- Level 42 from the torrent shared here recently
- Marillion from the torrent shared a few years ago here
- most of the Queen show from Queen Reigns the World
- the rest of the Queen show from Definitive Mannheim
- the ending speech from "Done Under Pressure in Germany"

Correct?


Craaft... was not aired (confirmed by friends who taped the whole day from fm), most likely it was not even recorded, also I haven't heard of any audience tapes from that day so I doubt we will ever get a copy, the rest of the day is complete. One track of the Marillion set was used on an official live release, the rest remains inofficial bootleg material. I do have the Gary Moore gig in lossless files if you like to create a boxset of the complete event. I discussed that with Ale Solan some time ago and he was willing to create artwork for it. Anyway I don't have the time to work on that project at the moment...

btw it's still seeded on dime...
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=476944

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Posted: 22 Mar 14, 10:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well Barbara said in this thread : http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1088789/announce-queen-mannheim-21-juni-1986-fm-1-gen-.aspx?page=2 that rasensteine shared his recording originally on dime and included the Craaft set into the share, that's why I was asking. I'm currently downloading Gary Moore, thanks a lot

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Posted: 22 Mar 14, 13:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I wrote to Rasensteine, he's still an active member in the Dime community, we'll see what he says about it...

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Posted: 22 Mar 14, 14:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks a lot for this stuff!

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Posted: 23 Mar 14, 07:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

2 SirGH:

Gypsy Eye GE 141 / 142 is closer in frequency range and sounding to 'Reigns The World' source and is the most complete source including full audience cheering between encores. But it has a tape hiss which is impossible to remove completely. Also it needs some clever equalization.
1st gen FM source, which is the source for Trial and Wardour releases, has IMHO dull sound but there's no tape hiss there and it's possibly a better choice for merge with 'Reigns The World' excellent quality source.

I'm working on them all now. Hope there will be a result in the nearest future.