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Posted: 25 Oct 16, 15:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Since a proper Blu Ray release of promo videos doesn't seem anywhere close, I decided we should do something to improve the viewing experience. This meant tracking down the best quality version(s) of certain promo clips and making them clearer, sharper and more film like (those that were originally shot on film, obviously).  

     Majority of the stuff is sourced from 1997 Greatest Flix promo DVD. Hammer To Fall for example is sourced from GHV 2 because David Mallet made a fresh film transfer (though he cut it to 2:35.1, *but* it has more frame on the sides compared to 4:3 version) and it looks better than anything else. Same thing for Radio Gaga (haven't got round to it yet). Anyway, screenshots below.

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      IAHL has been cut to 16:10 to avoid any frame loss. Your player will scale it to your monitor as necessary, so no black bars inside the file.

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  Radio Gaga was probably the most extensive video so far. I used the GVH DVD. It required replacing all the Metropolis scenes with a higher quality version, and degrading it a bit to make it look similar to the 'car scenes'. Even with degradation it looks miles better than it did originally, so no worries. Also, some of the wide scenes were originally squeezed so I had to stretch them to match the 16:9 frame and look natural. Generally, aspect ratios change all the time throughout the video but the file remains 16:9, like the source, with 4:3 footage being pillarboxed. And then there's the rest of the usual process of making the image a bit sharper and better, etc. But that's hardly worth mentioning. Added 3 audio streams from the DVD - DTS, PCM and commentary track. 

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Posted: 25 Oct 16, 15:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'll have to use Chin's reply because it appears I have reached a limit of pictures per post.

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AOBTD added. I thought the frames are blended due to conversions but upon closer inspection that doesn't appear to be the case. Someone clearly thought that motion blur would fit there as a nice creative choice, it was applied when they edited it back in 1980 on tape. It's a typical frame blending artifact. But EVERY frame is blended. So that's my conclusion - motion blur on purpose. We can't avoid that so we done what we can. The image is a lot brighter and more colourful and a bit tighter overall.

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We Are The Champions added. Again, just like with AOBTD, all the frames were originally blended so nothing can be done about the odd motion blur look. Somewhat fixed the intro & outro of the Flix by inserting the GHV footage. And the rest is the usual process.

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I'm Going Slightly Mad added. A good source. Made it slightly sharper, slightly clearer. Removed rainbowing artifacts (the random colour spots which is often a problem in video tapes). That being said, it's not just B&W'ed, the original colour tint (ever slightly green) remains and the coloured bits remain as well obviously.

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Posted: 25 Oct 16, 15:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Beautiful! Please, continue it


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Posted: 25 Oct 16, 15:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Looks great! Thanks!


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Posted: 25 Oct 16, 15:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Really nice! Keep going please ;-)


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Posted: 25 Oct 16, 16:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Looks good, and sounds like a worthy project.
Would it be a good idea to announce what sources you intend to use beforehand though?

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Posted: 25 Oct 16, 17:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

just look the video, and it's phenomenal. The only problem is the aspect ratio, you could do it with the 4:3 next time, instead of the 16:9. Anyway, beautiful project. thanks a lot


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Posted: 25 Oct 16, 23:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

^ I'm not familiar with IWIA available in proper 4:3 apart from letterboxed versions (which was used here too). So no useful information was cropped off, only the black bars on top and bottom. Anyway, glad you like it.

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Posted: 26 Oct 16, 01:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Amazing idea! I spent many hours in the past searching for clips in best possible quality. I'm super excited about this project.

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Posted: 26 Oct 16, 01:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Chief Mouse wrote:

^ I'm not familiar with IWIA available in proper 4:3 apart from letterboxed versions (which was used here too). So no useful information was cropped off, only the black bars on top and bottom. Anyway, glad you like it.


the one available on Greatest Flix I & II DVD, was on 4:3? Can't remember


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Posted: 26 Oct 16, 01:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

^ of course not.

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Posted: 26 Oct 16, 04:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The Kurgan wrote:

Looks good, and sounds like a worthy project.
Would it be a good idea to announce what sources you intend to use beforehand though?



This was taken from Greatest Flix 1997 DVD.
If anyone has other sources of other videos that can compete for great quality, please contact me.

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Posted: 26 Oct 16, 05:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think the Laserdisc looks better than the '97 Promo DVD myself.
Just a personal opinion though.

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Posted: 26 Oct 16, 05:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If there is a "film aesthetics buried underneath the video tape treatment", as you say in another place, there is also an aesthetic of the illegal shares (I mean one can spot this kind of things).
This site and your share are not illegal, as you probably know. So it's not a good idea to promote the trend of hidden link in PM. Unless you like to see people begging.

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Posted: 26 Oct 16, 06:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Freddie rey wrote:

Chief Mouse wrote:

^ I'm not familiar with IWIA available in proper 4:3 apart from letterboxed versions (which was used here too). So no useful information was cropped off, only the black bars on top and bottom. Anyway, glad you like it.


the one available on Greatest Flix I & II DVD, was on 4:3? Can't remember


I think yes, if I remember correctly that promo dvd is in 4:3, i will check it asap

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Posted: 26 Oct 16, 07:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Stage performance colour footage is in 16:9.
B/W footage in the middle is in 4:3 and is cropped from top and bottom on GVH2 DVD.

So best way to make a proper aspect ratio is to rescale original 4:3 b/w footage to 16:9 to match the stage performance footage.


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Posted: 26 Oct 16, 08:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Or just leave it the way it was originally edited (in 4:3)

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Posted: 26 Oct 16, 09:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Who still has a 4:3 screen? That letterboxing is annoying, to me anyway.

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Posted: 26 Oct 16, 09:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Which period are you going to cover? I would guess 1973 with Keep Yourself Alive to 1999 with the Rah Mix of Under Pressure.

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Posted: 26 Oct 16, 10:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm planning to cover film sourced videos for now, which means mostly 80s stuff plus Innuendo. And only if they are good enough quality to begin with.