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Posted: 01 Apr 20, 09:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

@pittrek:

Putting aside for a moment that Sanders isn't even a socialist, are you able to understand that your logic, all socialism = soviet dictatorship, is exactly the same as all capitalism = south american junta? I.e., fallacious.


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Posted: 01 Apr 20, 10:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sanders IS a socialist, even though he calls himself a "democratic socialist" (which is a thing that is something like wet fire). Yes, ALL socialism will end up in a soviet-type dictatorship. Always, with no exceptions possible, even in theory. While capitalism can exist in short term in a non-democratic society, socialism can't, socialism is mutually exclusive with democracy. As soon as you give the people any rights to make any decisions, they will try to dismantle the socialist society

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Posted: 01 Apr 20, 10:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

That reply just shows that you hold politically extremist views and have an utterly dogmatic, rather warped view of reality. But, at least you own up to it, so everyone can see how extreme your views are. Meanwhile, socialist parties have ruled democratically (and left office peacefully) in most European countries and many other countries the world over.


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Posted: 01 Apr 20, 10:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

These "extremist views" (a.k.a. common sense) are caused by growing up in a socialist country and being the last generation which was forced to study bullshit pseudophilosophy called "marxism-leninism" (thank god only a year). And no, there is no European country which would have a socialist party ruling over them, you are probably confusing socialists with social democrats, just like Bernie when he insulted Denmark by calling their system socialism.

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Posted: 01 Apr 20, 10:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ah, moving the goalposts (when I say Sanders isn't a socialist you claim he is, and now, suddenly, social democrats aren't socialists - despite the fact that Sanders argues for social democratic policies, not socialist ones), projecting your own experience with one communist dictatorship as normative for all socialism (it isn't - it's not even normative for anti-democratic communism - just compare China, Cuba and the Soviet Union - very different dictatorships) and denying reality (both socialist and social democratic parties have governed democratically in numerous countries. Just a few examples: Attlee's post-war socialist government in the UK (included nationalization of a sizeable part of British industry), current Namibia (socialist SWAPO has governed democratically and it is universally agreed that elections are free and fair), Israel for the first few decades of its existence as a state (note the kibbutzim)).

The fact that you equate Marxism-Leninism, which is indeed stupid bullshit, with socialism is another truly fallacious point in your argument. Only a minority of socialists EVER accepted those doctrines, not even all COMMUNIST regimes accept it (China never did [although, for a time it used the word - in a meaning entirely different from that used by the Soviet Union - which caused no end of trouble between the two countries], Cuba only nominally does) and, despite the name, it doesn't reflect Marx's own writings at all accurately (even flatly contradicting Marx on numerous points) and...most socialists are, and were, non-Marxist.

Your remarks fall in the "not even wrong" category. It is, and I mean this seriously and not as an insult or something, like you use words in an entirely different meaning from the rest of the world and thus draw conclusions that make NO sense to anyone who reads the words in their common meaning.


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Posted: 11 Apr 20, 17:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Troubling times It Is, but mark my words..Trump will be re elected..

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Posted: 11 Apr 20, 17:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I Believe Sanders dropped out, so that leaves Biden. I don't give him much of a chance.

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Posted: 11 Apr 20, 20:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I look forward to more definitive information about Burisma.


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Posted: 11 Apr 20, 20:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Saint Jiub wrote:

I look forward to more definitive information about Burisma.


Yes, Republicans are very keen to keep a fake scandal in the spotlight to dog Biden through his presidential campaign. Swift boats, Whitewater, Obama birth certificate, Benghazi -- very dirty politics. And yet Republicans give their own candidates a free ride, whether its draft dodging Dubya, fake weapons of mass destruction, or crotch grabbing Donald.


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Posted: 11 Apr 20, 21:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Holly2003 wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote:

I look forward to more definitive information about Burisma.


Yes, Republicans are very keen to keep a fake scandal in the spotlight to dog Biden through his presidential campaign. Swift boats, Whitewater, Obama birth certificate, Benghazi -- very dirty politics. And yet Republicans give their own candidates a free ride, whether its draft dodging Dubya, fake weapons of mass destruction, or crotch grabbing Donald.


Russia hacked Burisma, I wonder what nuggets will be dug up and presented weeks before the election. Why would Burisma hire a loser like Hunter?

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/08/will-hunter-biden-jeopardize-his-fathers-campaign

Perhaps Burisma leaks will turn out like Hillary's emails, or the Democratic National Congress rigging the election against Bernie.


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Posted: 11 Apr 20, 21:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Good job ignoring everything I said and continuing the smear campaign. Meanwhile, your Republican president continues to embarrass your country every day.


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Posted: 11 Apr 20, 21:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Holly2003 wrote:

Good job ignoring everything I said and continuing the smear campaign. Meanwhile, your Republican president continues to embarrass your country every day.


ps are you suggesting Russia will interfere in your internal affairs in order to ensure Trump is reelected? I wonder why they would want Trump in charge so badly?


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Posted: 11 Apr 20, 21:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

... and there are worries about Biden's mental acuity ...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/03/11/trump_wasnt_the_first_to_wonder_about_bidens_mental_acuity_142627.html#!


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Posted: 11 Apr 20, 21:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Holly2003 wrote:

Good job ignoring everything I said and continuing the smear campaign. Meanwhile, your Republican president continues to embarrass your country every day.


I don't like Trump, but he is the lesser of two evils.


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Posted: 11 Apr 20, 21:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Holly2003 wrote:

Good job ignoring everything I said and continuing the smear campaign. Meanwhile, your Republican president continues to embarrass your country every day.


I don't like Trump, but he is the lesser of two evils.


If that's the insane position that Republicans hold then you deserve the president you currently have.


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Posted: 11 Apr 20, 22:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Saint Jiub wrote:

What matters is that Trump is not a Democrat.



Indeed, that's all that seems to matter to those who vote for him.

Now, politics over, I'm off to Facebook to look at funny cat videos.



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Posted: 12 Apr 20, 00:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Go Joe! We need YOUR leadership!

“@JoeBiden This new enemy may be unseen, but we have the tools, the expertise, the will, and the spirit to defeat it. There is nothing the American people can't accomplish if we work together.“

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Posted: 13 Apr 20, 02:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Easter message from Joe and Jill Biden:

“http://medium.com/@JoeBiden/statement-by-vice-president-joe-biden-and-dr-jill-biden-on-easter-4f22fcd7116a