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Posted: 11 Jun 20, 13:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



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Posted: 11 Jun 20, 14:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I realize he is writing a book that will be out sometime in the future. He reports he and Freddie were very close However Freddie from what I have noticed put his friends in different areas in his life. There were his buisness friends, Houskeepers , Drivers, personal assistants, Mary of course. The band which he was close too on a buisness and brotherly perspective. Oh I almost forgot PeterFrestone his personal Assistant.Oops and I can’t forget Rudi his Friend and buisness associate.Did I forget anyone?

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Posted: 11 Jun 20, 14:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes I did Forget he had more personal friends he spent time with and talked too. He felt he may have had more in common with and understood him and that was his Newyork buddies Thor and Lee. There were others I’m just not familiar with their names .I don’t feel Rudi was this type of close personal friend to Freddie. He wasn’t someone he could hit the club with have talks about boyfriend troubles. Rudi was in another group of Freddie’s friends I believe.The thing that bothers me most is the fact he is calling his book my Friend Freddie I truly believe the only ones that knew his intimate side were his men friends. He probably felt more comfortable talking to them is why I say this.

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Posted: 11 Jun 20, 14:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I’m sorry I misspelled poor Freddie’s name

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Posted: 14 Jun 20, 07:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well enough that Rudi worked with Freddie for nearly half of Freddie’s Queen career from interviews to music videos to documentaries. Freddie must have thought a lot of him.


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Posted: 12 Jul 20, 08:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Queen worked with Rudi even when became clear that Freddie was in very poor health so I think they had confidence in him, so he known the band and Freddie first through the profession and later privatly also.

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Posted: 29 Jul 20, 08:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think they weren't very close. I think he writes in this book to get attention for himself. I recently played book of ra play for free and watched a documentary about Freddie's TV. I never heard him mention Ruddy.

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Posted: 29 Jul 20, 17:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I agree a lot of people don’t agree with me he was with Queen a long time but not as close with Freddie as he portrays. I heard his book might not be happing and a lot of fans have put up money I hope refunds are coming if this is true. He also has eviction notice to get out of his remtal home don’t know what for. I don’t know what’s going on there sad for the fans though.

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Posted: 29 Jul 20, 17:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Rudi has been at this book deal for years looking back on my other fb group so I don’t know. For one in Freddie’s down time he mainly spent his time in the company of gay men. When he got with Jim it was him. He spent it at Garden Lodge the occupants there were also gay men that’s what brought him joy. I don’t think he mixed buisness with pleasure lol.I”m not saying he didn’t go to dinner with the band or Mary at times. His main circle like it or not we’re his gay men friends in Newyork. When he got to Germany he hooked up with Barbara’s company because she liked gay men who doesn’t I do I admit it.He soon found A circle and gay partner there.He then went back to London set up house with Jim Hutton another gay man. In the home was phoebe and Joe his employees both those men were gay. He would from what I know call his Newyork buddies and visited and they were all gay. The only straight was Mary his best friend and former first and last girlfriend in his youth.So everybody was gay it’s a beautiful thing yah yah yah!!!!!!!!Im just saying he preferred his people and I get that I really do you wanna be we’re you feel accepted.

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Posted: 29 Jul 20, 17:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

No in my opinion I don’t think they were that close!!!!!!!!

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Posted: 30 Jul 20, 08:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hopefully the book will focus on Fred's music and not as much on his personal life.


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Posted: 30 Jul 20, 16:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well I certainly hope so from I think from a music side of things I do think Rudi has much to contribute he was with Queen for some time.However, fans have really gotten the wrong idea about this book because of all the stuff Rudi himself has said about him and Freddie being such great friends and such. The title for instance My friend Freddie. it sounds more like buddies pals long time friends.The chapters on Mary Austin and Barbara Valentin. Give me some men please cause he sure liked them.Please no love stories on Barbara It didn’t happen I’m a fan but hell no.I seen some old footage of him signing a ladies autograph and as he passed a guy was bent over and Freddie was looking at his ass lol!I got off track talking about men no I’m not one but I do find gay men attractive like good ole Barbara I just don’t lie on them. I lick my wounds and be friends.I hope this book happens too! I just don’t like the ways he went about things.

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Posted: 30 Jul 20, 17:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I do think the fans will get some benefit from the book written about his personal life too! We just have been left in the dark on that one so many men in his life with no names. I blame management for this one and always will my opinion doesn’t have to be anyone else’s .A couple gentlemen writing about personal friendships from an actual personal perspective which will be nice and lovely stories from the missing years what a shame it was left out of his story at all.But we are talking about years ago but to me that’s no excuse it’s sickens me how much money Freddie made management and they deny him.They make him somebody else disgusting well I’m done.

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Posted: 30 Jul 20, 18:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I do think the fans will get some benefit from the book written about his personal life too! We just have been left in the dark on that one so many men in his life with no names. I blame management for this one and always will my opinion doesn’t have to be anyone else’s .A couple gentlemen writing about personal friendships from an actual personal perspective which will be nice and lovely stories from the missing years what a shame it was left out of his story at all.But we are talking about years ago but to me that’s no excuse it’s sickens me how much money Freddie made management and they deny him.They make him somebody else disgusting well I’m done.

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Posted: 30 Jul 20, 19:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

With regard to his pubic persona, the person who did the most to hide the fact he was gay was Fred himself. In this 1985 video he chases Debbie Ash around as if he is straight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR0YjRfkQPk

He denied being gay in the press (when 'outed' by The Sun newspaper); he didn't admit to having aids until the day before his death. The closest he came to a public 'admission' was in adopting the gay clone look in 1979/80. I don't blame him in any way for this, but you can't blame his management for allegedly trying to hide his gayness (something I don't believe at all -- in fact, it's just ludicrous) when Freddie did it himself.




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Posted: 30 Jul 20, 19:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

btw the management who you claim "deny him" is Jim Beach, the man who helped set up the The Mercury Phoenix Trust, a charity organisation that is dedicated to the fight against HIV/AIDS. Beach remains a trustee of the Trust. Not a bad record for someone you allege is trying to hide Fred's gay identity.


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Posted: 30 Jul 20, 22:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Of course, he chased women around in videos and held them in his arms he was directed too by management it was his job. That means absolutely nothing but he was following orders everybody has a boss.As far as AIDS he as a man had the right to protect his family it had nothing to do with being gay. His poor parents went to see his body and they flashed a camera in his face.As a mom how terrible is that.A mother knows her son she told the public she didn’t know he was gay but every mom knows her son and I think she knew he was gay. Management wanted not told he was gay.

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Posted: 30 Jul 20, 22:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

A little thing called love a woman’s crotch was in his face and it was like he was looking through a brick wall no man does this it looked so bad.They should’ve let him be himself. Hell they should’ve put a guy there why not? That’s what wrong with people if it works why change it.But they did they wanted to make him somebody he wasn’t for the sake of shame. Being gay used to be considered a dirty thing. Well they didn’t want it so they made a straight Freddie and they did a shitty job.

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Posted: 30 Jul 20, 22:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

As far as the clone era he was coming into himself he was almost like being reborn how special that would’ve been to witness. Unless you understand Freddie’s world you can’t grasp how special this is for someone. It wasn’t a fashion statement for him . He was saying here I am world I’m ready to embrace this beautiful lifestyle fully admit who I truly am and if you don’t like it fuck off.Thats my opinion.

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Posted: 30 Jul 20, 23:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Freddie’s mom wrote Jim a letter and told thank you for taking care of my son. He even took Jim to visit his folks. His parents knew that was his partner for his careers sake and contracts they denied knowing he was gay .