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Posted: 16 Nov 03, 08:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

When I heard The Miracle album, I thought Party and Kashoggi's ship were all one song because there is such a short gap between the songs, they seemed to merge together, I can't listen to Party now without the much needed Kashoggi's ship concluding the song. Were they meant to merge together like that or was it accidental?


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Posted: 16 Nov 03, 09:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Since there's also a stand-alone version of Khashoggi's Ship somewhere in the Queen archives, they were probably written and recorded apart and then added together later on for the album.

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Posted: 16 Nov 03, 09:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

So what about Flick Of The Wrist and Lily Of The Valley, or The Prophet's Song written by Brian and Love Of My Life written by Freddie?

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Posted: 16 Nov 03, 11:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

FOTW/LOTV were written apart, as the melody doesn't segue - they were just crossfaded. Same for the Prophet's Song I think - maybe they added the piano part later on to segue into LOML.

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Posted: 16 Nov 03, 12:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think Party totally needs KS to conclude it, it's not the same, Party ends weird without KS, don't you think?


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Posted: 16 Nov 03, 13:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

'Party' is absolutely the worst song ever recorded by Queen. Whenever I play 'The Miracle', I always start with 'Khashoggi's Ship', so I always view that as the opening track of 'The Miracle'.

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Posted: 16 Nov 03, 14:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I love guitars in Party- amazing!!!

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Posted: 16 Nov 03, 16:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've always felt too that somehow Kashoggi's is an extension of Party, in a similar way With a Little Help is with Sgy Pepper's, but who knows... Brian once said that Kashoggi and Worth It were the two possible endings of the album, so it seems that Party and KS weren't one piece


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Posted: 17 Nov 03, 14:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

How can you dis' party? It's an amazing song but not without KS maybe. Cos it ends weird otherwise. But still, a great song, definitley not worst. The worst I've heard is GDML.


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Posted: 17 Nov 03, 16:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"How can you dis' party?"

Easy. I hate it. There!

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Posted: 17 Nov 03, 19:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"in a similar way With a Little Help is with Sgy Pepper's,"

I never thought of these 2 songs to be written for each other. since they're not similar at all, and the don't blend in very well. (Queen example: Flick of the Wrist/Lily of the Valley) The guitar just starts during the last vocals.

So it sounds like they were just pasted together.

As for Fairy feller/nevermore, I think Freddie didn't write those songs on side B to be a big medley, I'm pretty sure they came up with that idea later, and added some extra pieces to make it blend better (like they did in live shows aswell).


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Posted: 17 Nov 03, 23:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I love Party and KS!


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Posted: 18 Nov 03, 00:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I wish they weren't stuck together like that, 'cuz I think Party is GRRRRRREEEEAAAT, but loses steam during K's Ship. During K's Ship I always get bored by the time "Everybody drank my wine, if you get my drift" is sung, and I get the drift all too vividly... eeeeeewww. Bit "hard to swallow", "if you get my drift"...
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Posted: 18 Nov 03, 00:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i like both songs , they are cool


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Posted: 18 Nov 03, 07:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sgt Pepper's was a kind of creating alter-egos, that's why in the end the fictional Billy Shears is introduced, and so WALHFMF start. Of course it wasn't like Paul thought of the whole two songs at once, they just used some ideas he had and created the two songs out of them.


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Posted: 18 Nov 03, 09:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I never liked the Beatles version of With a little help from my friends very much. The Joe Cocker version is great!


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Posted: 18 Nov 03, 10:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think the opposite, I hate Joe Cocker's version, while the Fab Four's is one ofmy five favourite songs ever


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Posted: 18 Nov 03, 14:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Everybody drank my wine, if you get my drift" is sung, and I get the drift all too vividly... eeeeeewww. Bit "hard to swallow", "if you get my drift"...

You have too much imagination Gonnausemyprisoners.


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Posted: 18 Nov 03, 14:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Kashoggi's Ship
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Who said that my party was all over
Huh huh I'm in pretty good shape
The best years of my life are like a supernova
Huh huh perpetual craze I said that
Everybody drank my wine - you get my drift
And then we took a holiday on Khashoggi's ship - well
We really had a good good time they was all so sexy
We was bad we was blitzed
All in all it was a pretty good trip

This big bad sucker with a fist as big as your head
Wanted to get me I said go away
I said kiss my ass honey
He pulled out a gun wanted to arrest me
I said uh uh uh babe
Now listen no-one stops my party
No-one stops my party
No-one no-one no-one stops my party
Just like I said
We were phased we was pissed
Just having a total eclipse

That's good

This one's on me so let us do it just right
This here one party don't get started 'till midnight

Everybody party to the left - party to the right
Left - right
Left right
No-one stops my ...

Ok quite a few of the lyrics in here are a bit hard to understand, I have to agree.



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Posted: 18 Nov 03, 21:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Party and KS are cool.

Not my fav songs ever, of course. But still cool


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