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Posted: 20 Nov 03, 10:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

In the latest issue of Q magazine thay have a feature entitled the 1,001 greatest songs of all time. This poll has been voted for by Critics and some minor celebrities - Who clearly know fuck all about good music.
Queen had only 3 songs in the list,
Bohemian Rhapsody at 458
Flash at 730
and Killer Queen at 780

Above these Queen songs are memorable tracks by the likes of Wu Tang Clan, Britney Spears and So Solid Crew.

The Sun's column 'Bizarre' have dismissed this list as it is compiled by critics and want the readers of Bizarre to send in their top 5 songs of all time. It would be great if we could get a couple of Queen songs high up on the list to prove those muppets at Q magazine wrong.

Send Your Top 5 by e-mail to;
biz@the-sun.co.uk



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Posted: 20 Nov 03, 10:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Why should Der Sun's list be any more relevant the Q's.

Personally I never needed my taste in music validated by anyone. Let alone knuckle-dragging Sun readers.


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Posted: 20 Nov 03, 10:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

ogre t raylot-- You're a funny guy.


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Posted: 20 Nov 03, 11:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Flash is in there as "second most funny song"

U2 won, surprisingly. Radiohead well placed, usual Q favourites showing. Apparently Brian May said Killer Queen "is about a high class call girl. I'm trying to say that classy people can be whores too". Quality research there...

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Posted: 20 Nov 03, 15:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Why worry !

Look back at back issues of Q magazine and u will cringe at some of the results of their previous pools, Suede, Blur, Oasis and another 100 brit pop bands were once their darlings and topped their polls. Quality stands the test of time


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Posted: 20 Nov 03, 17:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Nowt wrong with Suede sunbeam.

That said Q is shite.


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Posted: 20 Nov 03, 21:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"Knuckle dragging Sun readers"

LOL

So which song was voted the top of 1001 great songs? Better not be Smells Like Teen Spirit.


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Posted: 21 Nov 03, 05:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

lol!


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Posted: 21 Nov 03, 05:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I did say that U2 won. The song was "One".

Teen spirit was top ten, I think though

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Posted: 21 Nov 03, 06:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Usual shit. Nothing surprising


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Posted: 21 Nov 03, 06:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Was my song in there? Jam of Screaming Gibbons?

I don't trust this compilations. A lot of them are written by people who have had labotomies.


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Posted: 21 Nov 03, 10:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Q is the British "Rolling Stone".

So don't expect to hear anything nice about Queen. Especially when a song like "Bohemian Rhapsody" that has countless times been named "Best Song Ever"... is now number 458.

These are the same guys who praised U2 when their careers were going down the hill in the 90s and their albums (except for "Achtung Baby") tanked.


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Posted: 21 Nov 03, 12:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

How can setting the record for most countries with a number 1 album be considered "tanking"?

POP and Zooropa are multi-platinum and the tours were massive. They may not have been as big as they were with Achtung Baby or Joshua Tree, but weren't in the gutter as you seem to imply.


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Posted: 21 Nov 03, 13:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Who cares what anyone thinks as long as you like the song? I love Ogre Battle and I love MMMbop by Hanson. It's got great harmonies and is a good tune, I don't give a flying fig about anyone caring that it's by a boy band. What cracks me up about surveys of this size is how much thought goes into the lower numbers. What did Bohemian Rhapsody lack that the #457 song had, and what did it have that the #459 song lacked? I can imagine the discussions were intense deciding those positions.


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Posted: 23 Nov 03, 16:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

That's true. There won't eb a single person in the world who agrees entirely with that list. That's why I think those lists are silly - music's too subjective for that.


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Posted: 23 Nov 03, 16:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Do you think people went to see the Zoo and Pop tours just to see U2 play the songs from Zooropa and Pop? In fact, during the Pop Tour U2 found themselves unable to sell out most of their venues.

Even Bono admits that Zooropa and Pop weren't their best albums. Both of them reached #1 thanks to media over hype and in the long run they failed to deliver the goods. At least compared to their previous material.

The fact that an album reaches the #1 spot doesn't make it successful. A lot of albums that have reached #1 in the US fail to get a platinum record, or hardly make it past it but in the end they just tank. They are hyped thanks to the image and history of the artists. Take for instance the last studio albums released by Madonna and Michael Jackson.

At the same time, there are a lot of albums that never reach #1 but become widely successful and reach an stability that makes them some of the best selling albums ever. Ej. Pink Floyd's 'Dark Side Of The Moon'.


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Posted: 23 Nov 03, 16:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, but Bono has said that The Wanderer was the greatest song they ever wrote, and apparently The Edge considers Zooropa one of his favorite albums.

Zooropa suffers from being released too soon after Achtung Baby, and POP suffers from being released too early. The band does not deny that.

Again, the albums were not failures nor does U2 consider them bastard albums. Perhaps to the U2 fan who thinks they should stick to playing the greatest hits, they don't get the albums and consider POP and Zooropa failures. But the fact that U2 still plays tracks off them gives you an idea of their feelings for the albums. Don't confuse personal feelings with facts.




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Posted: 23 Nov 03, 16:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Brian also said once that he doesn't regret anything that Queen did (that includes 'Hot Space'... I guess).

Yet still, I doubt that Queen would have dared to release another 'Hot Space'. Just like U2 might think twice before releasing again something that sounds like Pop or Zooropa.


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Posted: 23 Nov 03, 16:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Since you edited your post:

Perhaps you should give the Danny-definition of success. Clearly, number one albums are not sufficient since many crap albums can be number one. Clearly, album sales are not sufficient, since many crap artists can sell millions of records. Clearly, press and critical praise is not suffcient, since most of those rags have wacked out opinions. So what is sufficient for you to consider it a success?

Again, don't confuse personal feelings with facts. Just because some fans may hate an album, like Hot Space, does not mean it wasn't a success.


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Posted: 23 Nov 03, 17:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Then give me the Zeni-definition of why Zooropa and Pop were good albums.

I remember recently you said that Michael Jackson's latest album was crap. Well, perhaps you could explain that definition. I happened to buy the album myself, and although I was kinda dissapointed I happened to find excellent tracks like "You Rock My World", "Butterflies" and "Whatever Happens". Acceptable IMO... but definitely not as great as his previous albums. I happen to have a friend who is also a big MJ fan and he loved 'Invincible' but then he said that 'Dangerous' was an awful album. As you see, it's all a matter of taste anyways.

Once again, you could end up saying that "success" or "talent" are undefined terms, and end up having the same ol' discussion we always have.

Are you ready to make this thread 5 pages long?


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